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I would like to build a decent setup for a home theater with a projector for a 120" screen. Room is around 22' by 14'. This is the equipment I'm looking at getting.

Definitive Technology Pro Cinema 800 System Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001JQ...d=N5MO1GD1O18A

Yamaha RX-V671BL 7.1-Channel Network AV Receiver
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004QR...d=N5MO1GD1O18A

I want atleast a 5.1 system with room to grow to a 7.1 system. Something that will rival Bose and good for a home theater but within that budget for the price of those components. Like 1200 for speakers.
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If I had a friend come to me and ask me to rank 10 different speaker systems and that DEAFtech speaker system was on the list, I would rank it last (unless Bose was in the list...lol).

For $1200, you can get some pretty darn good speakers, which those are NOT.

My first choice would be four PSB Alpha B1 speakers, which will cost $600, and a PSB Alpha C4 center speaker for $299. That leaves $300 for a Polk PSW505 subwoofer, which is 100% better than the subwoofer in that set.

The PSB speakers are also in a whole different league than the DT speakers; clean and clear and nice-sounding treble; excellent sound.

You can check out or buy those PSB speakers at the Audio Advisor website, and the Polk sub is on Amazon and others.





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I would like to build a decent setup for a home theater with a projector for a 120" screen. Room is around 22' by 14'. This is the equipment I'm looking at getting.

Definitive Technology Pro Cinema 800 System Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001JQ...d=N5MO1GD1O18A

Yamaha RX-V671BL 7.1-Channel Network AV Receiver
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004QR...d=N5MO1GD1O18A

I want atleast a 5.1 system with room to grow to a 7.1 system. Something that will rival Bose and good for a home theater but within that budget for the price of those components. Like 1200 for speakers.
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Also how would it sound if I add 2 SR-8040BP for the rear surround and take the surrounds in the above package and place them directly on the left and right wall for a 7.1 setup?
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I don't know anything about those speakers.

I also should tell you that you may not have enough power for 7 channels with that receiver, no matter what speakers you use.

The Cambridge speakers are very sensitive, so you might be able to do it if those speakers are too, but you need to do some research and see how much power the receiver you are getting will put out with all seven channels driven.

From the reviews I have read, my impression is that the Denon AVR-1912 would be a better choice for 7-channel operation, in that price range. cnet gives it their Editor's Choice Award. The Denon AVR-1712 would also be very good at a much lower price.

I checked cnet just now and they say those speakers have 92db per watt sensitivity, which is good, so they would be as good as any in the sense that they are not going to draw a whole lot of power for a given volume.




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Also how would it sound if I add 2 SR-8040BP for the rear surround and take the surrounds in the above package and place them directly on the left and right wall for a 7.1 setup?

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If I had a friend come to me and ask me to rank 10 different speakers and that DEAFteach speaker system was on the list, I would rank it last (unless Bose was in the list...lol).

For $1200, you can get some pretty darn good speakers, which those are NOT.

My first choice would be four PSB Alpha B1 speakers, which will cost $600, and a PSB Alpha C4 center speaker for $299. That leaves $300 for a Polk PSW505 subwoofer, which is 300% better than the subwoofer in that set.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000V2...7447725&sr=8-1
These? I can't find any PSB Alphas on Amazon.
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Go to the Audio Advisor website and at the left click on speakers...bookshelf



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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000V2...7447725&sr=8-1
These? I can't find any PSB Alphas on Amazon.

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I would look at Cambridge Audio - 2 pairs of the S30 and
the S50 center >
http://home-audio.audioadvisor.com/s...audio+speakers

And this Outlaw sub is on sale - a good one
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfmEX.html

This makes your speaker budget ("Like 1200 for speakers")

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You got me hooked on the PSB now, just wish I could hear them in real life. Like will this blow off girls clothes loud or my 3 year old daughter plug her ears loud? And that sub has 296 5 stars on amazon, im sold. Will that receiver be good enough for that setup? The yamaha one. Thank you so much for the feedback.
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The Yamaha 671 would work just fine for 7.1. Rarely if ever will all 7 channels be driven at the same time let alone full power to all of them. Plus the GUI is much better than the Denon. But either would be fine.

Another suggestion would be Infinity Primus speakers either the bookshelf or tower.

Four ARX-1 and one ARX-2 would be less than $700 (theaudioinsider.com) is another option.

2 pairs of these- http://emotiva.com/xrm41.shtm and one of these
http://emotiva.com/xrc52.shtm is less than $600.

That leaves $600 for a sub, which is more important for movies in a largish room such as yours. $600 gets you into the "this is a really good sub" range

All of the recommendations so far would be better than the DefTech setup.

The Polk 505 is Ok for what it is, but it ain't gonna fill your room or have the sound quality of an Outlaw, Rythmik, HSU, Epik, or ED in the $600 range.
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Like will this blow off girls clothes loud or my 3 year old daughter plug her ears loud? And that sub has 296 5 stars on amazon, im sold.

The Polk psw505 is nice - however with your room, everyone is safe.
There are other options.
Read the review
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...er-4-2005.html

Evaluation Criteria Rating (1-5):

Dynamic Impact 3.00
Sustained Output 2.75
Audible Artifacts 2.25
Deep Extension 2.75

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My head hurts now
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My head hurts now

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Your choice, your decision - buy what you want.

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your head going to hurt a little more heres another suggestion;

hsu enthusiast2 package

i'm so laid back,i'm laid out
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I would look at Cambridge Audio - 2 pairs of the S30 and
the S50 center >
http://home-audio.audioadvisor.com/s...audio+speakers

And this Outlaw sub is on sale - a good one
http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfmEX.html

This makes your speaker budget ("Like 1200 for speakers")

Are those Cambridge speakers priced by pair or each on that site? It just says "Black - ***"
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Are those Cambridge speakers priced by pair or each on that site? It just says "Black - ***"

by the Pair

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What do you guys think of this new setup.

1 pr of ARX-A3 (FR/FL)
1 pr of ARX-A1 (SR/SL)
1 ARX-A2 (Center)
1 Epik Empire Subwoofer

http://www.theaudioinsider.com/advan...&go.x=0&go.y=0

http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/empire.html

Brings the total to about $1,800

I'm willing to go a little extra so I wont have to upgrade too soon down the road na I mean?

Or do you guys think 4 ARX-A1 will be suffice for my room? And just go big on the Sub.
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^^^^ It can work for you.
The ARX A2, can also be used as a left and right speaker.

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^^^^ It can work for you.
The ARX A2, can also be used as a left and right speaker.

LOL I know "It can work" but I'm asking will it blow me away? I want something that is not breaking the bank but is a respectable system and will blow away friends, family and myself. Thank you all for your inputs, really appreciated.
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LOL I know "It can work" but I'm asking will it blow me away?

That answer is always subjective - 30 day in home trial period,
is the real answer.

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That answer is always subjective - 30 day in home trial period,
is the real answer.

Same goes for the hsu enthusiast 2 pkg. Just make sure that your research involves more than just amazon reviews.
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Just make sure that your research involves more than just amazon reviews.

One way to get buyer's remorse.

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Of course it does...lol.

If you want to spend the extra bucks for the PSB speakers...you will be happy with them; don't worry about it.

On the other hand, the Cambridge speakers aren't bad either, and you spend less money.

I don't think you will be sorry either way, but if you really want to impress people (including yourself) the PSB Alpha B1 speakers are definitely the best. Did you look at all of the rave reviews listed on the Audio Advisor website? I've never seen that kind of unanimous high opinion for ANYTHING in many years!
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Of course it does...lol.

If you want to spend the extra bucks for the PSB speakers...you will be happy with them; don't worry about it.

On the other hand, the Cambridge speakers aren't bad either, and you spend less money.

I don't think you will be sorry either way.

What about the ARX A-3? They got good reviews on the audio insider website.
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Have you bought the Yamaha yet? If not, I'd also at least consider a Denon XX12 with MultEq XT because it will EQ a sub. IIRC the Yamaha won't. Here is a link that explains the features differences between models. (and don't pay attention to MSRP, the street price on these models is much lower if you call around, like Electronics Expo, J&R, AV Science, etc.)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1334369
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A3's are good, but if you can get in on the A5 group buy, that's even better... you should check out the tai forums...
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A3's are good, but if you can get in on the A5 group buy, that's even better... you should check out the tai forums...

Yeah I saw that, but I think I'll pass on the group buy for now. Now I'm looking for a $600-$800 sub to go with the 2 A3, 1 A2, and 2 A1.
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http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfmEX.html

Simply cannot beat this price for a sub of this caliber.
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It's pretty funny, after reading your thread top to bottom I noticed we have similar tastes, I am going all Sex and considered the A3's. But I decided to go the A5 route simply because for the same price of 2 A3s and 2 A1's with the A2 as a center the discounts with the group buy made the price the same. I'm only in a reserve spot so hopefully I can slip in, they really seem like a good company and the speakers have a certain "feel" to them. The Yamaha receiver was one I was looking at as well, in fact I created a thread comparing that AVR to an Onkyo 709 and Denon 2112, the consensus being that ypao doesn't eq a sub but audyssey eqXT does. And as far as subs go I was looking at a slightly different approach, I was eyeing up dual legends in place of a single empire, but have since gone to commiting to buy the outlaw ASAP to take advantage of the spectacular discount. I would love to see how your set-up turns out. What TV or PJ are you tying all of this to?
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From reading your posts it seems like what you want is something that'll go very loud and shatter your ears. You need something very sensitive or you'll be disappointed. And you need a decent amount of wattage.

Try some klipsch speakers... They may be the sound your looking for.
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It's pretty funny, after reading your thread top to bottom I noticed we have similar tastes, I am going all Sex and considered the A3's. But I decided to go the A5 route simply because for the same price of 2 A3s and 2 A1's with the A2 as a center the discounts with the group buy made the price the same. I'm only in a reserve spot so hopefully I can slip in, they really seem like a good company and the speakers have a certain "feel" to them. The Yamaha receiver was one I was looking at as well, in fact I created a thread comparing that AVR to an Onkyo 709 and Denon 2112, the consensus being that ypao doesn't eq a sub but audyssey eqXT does. And as far as subs go I was looking at a slightly different approach, I was eyeing up dual legends in place of a single empire, but have since gone to commiting to buy the outlaw ASAP to take advantage of the spectacular discount. I would love to see how your set-up turns out. What TV or PJ are you tying all of this to?

I'm getting the Epson 8350 with a Visual Apex 120" Electric Tension screen. That is my plan.
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