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Hey Im trying to buy a budget brand new home theater system. I currently own http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...4/product.html

Panasonic Home theater system sc-pt960 1250watt 5.1. I bought his 3 years ago, and planning on selling this and buying a new speaker system for the house. Its a fairly large living room, tv and the couch is +12 feet away, Im not sure on the SQ ft.

So any suggestions on home theater? Im looking for plug and play rather then doing set up one by one, And I also kinda have this one in mind.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S7409.../dp/B005EP2HKW

Suggestions? Also my budget is under $600. Also what do you guys think of bose acoustic III 6? I can invest 100 extra for that if thats really good.
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Bose is overpriced junk. Much better sound can be had compared to what you're looking at.

Infinity Primus P153 $50 ea x5 $250

BIC America F12 sub $190

Onkyo TX-NR509 5.1 Channel Network A/V Receiver $200
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thanks for your suggestion, but I think for me Im more of a all in one system type of a guy. What do you guys think of the Onkyo that I showed? will there be big difference vs my Panasonic system I have?

Also whats the best all in one system out there for under 600?
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That panasonic system is junk.. The center weighs 1.54lbs..

For the most part this forum is not really a "buy all in one" kind of a place as nothing of decent quality even really comes "all in one". Though there is a Home Theater In a Box or HTIB forum as well as a sound bar forum that might be of more help in the future.

I would agree and recommend for $600 you peice something together your end product will blow away anything that's "all in one". The onkyo would be better than your panasonic in the fact that it actually has a real AVR in it and the speakers are probably only marginally better. You would hear a sound difference but it still wouldn't be the best you could do for the money. The onkyo speakers are always junk but you get a real AVR or Audio Video Receiver.
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thanks for your suggestion, but I think for me Im more of a all in one system type of a guy. What do you guys think of the Onkyo that I showed? will there be big difference vs my Panasonic system I have?

Also whats the best all in one system out there for under 600?

In terms of ease of set up, there really is very little difference between "an all in one system" and buying separate speakers, sub and receiver. You still have to connect all the wires together.

The difference is that something you buy as separate components will sound vastly better and be expandable/upgradeable.

I had a Panasonic SC-PT760 and when we went with a new system based on separates, the improvement was 1000%, at least.

I am not exagerating. My wife and I both agree the new system sounds at least that much better than what we had before.

Without knowing your room size, the first thing that comes to mind for your budget is:

Two pairs of these Pioneer bookshelf and a matching center.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rder=BESTMATCH


A BIC F12 Sub already mentioned.

And the Onkyo receiver mentioned or a Pioneer 821 from Costco.

All that is about $550 or so.

I would say this would be significantly better than the all in one system your are looking at in terms of sound quality. And more upgradeable too.

BTW, how big is your room?

Thanks.
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In terms of ease of set up, there really is very little difference between "an all in one system" and buying separate speakers, sub and receiver. You still have to connect all the wires together.

The difference is that something you buy as separate components will sound vastly better and be expandable/upgradeable.

I had a Panasonic SC-PT760 and when we went with a new system based on separates, the improvement was 1000%, at least.

I am not exagerating. My wife and I both agree the new system sounds at least that much better than what we had before.

Without knowing your room size, the first thing that comes to mind for your budget is:

Two pairs of these Pioneer bookshelf and a matching center.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rder=BESTMATCH


A BIC F12 Sub already mentioned.

And the Onkyo receiver mentioned or a Pioneer 821 from Costco.

All that is about $550 or so.

I would say this would be significantly better than the all in one system your are looking at in terms of sound quality. And more upgradeable too.

BTW, how big is your room?

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+1

Or, you can get this Pioneer set with towers from BestBuy for under $300, buy a receiver, then wait and get a sub on down the road. Lot of people here love this set for the money: http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1278774

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Jamo s606 400 vanns
Pioneer vsx-1021 249.99 new egg
And add a sub later.

Even without a sub this system will destroy any htib's and it will allow for growth when the ht illness spreads.
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thanks for your suggestion, but I think for me Im more of a all in one system type of a guy. What do you guys think of the Onkyo that I showed? will there be big difference vs my Panasonic system I have?

Also whats the best all in one system out there for under 600?

Do you want good sound or not? There isnt much of a reason to upgrade what you have if you're only going to look at htib's. The system that I linked will actually sound extremely good, you will feel like your $700 was well spent.
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In terms of ease of set up, there really is very little difference between "an all in one system" and buying separate speakers, sub and receiver. You still have to connect all the wires together.

The difference is that something you buy as separate components will sound vastly better and be expandable/upgradeable.

Agreed. Buying a home theater in a box or putting pieces together is all the same. It is no harder to set up one over the other. You may have to go to one or more stores to buy everything due to prices but as far as setting it up....all the same. Home theater pretty much consists of 3 parts: Receiver, speakers, and subwoofers. Speaker wires, hdmi connectors, subwoofer connectors can easily be purchased at monoprice.com
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How about:

1a)http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Classic...8393619&sr=1-1
OR
1b)http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...kers/SP-PK21BS
WITH
2)http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR509...8393757&sr=1-1

That is a grand total of $629.

As mentioned earlier head over to monoprice.com for cabling and speaker wire and you are done. Set-up is no more complicated then hooking up a all-in-one system but the sound will be 1000% better.

Good luck!
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what do you guys think of this set? is this bad or okay or good?
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...3?SSAID=101512
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hate to sound like a jerk, but you just completely ignored the 8 posts above yours, since your last post. I predict you wont get much more different than what's already been said. If you insist on a HTIB set-up, you'll get much more positive input IN THAT FORUM. You'll also get recommendations that for that budget, you'd be better served getting your Home Theater from more than one box, but you can just ignore those, too.

I really don't mean to harsh on you like that, but c'mon man

If you want a really good one, you'll have to learn a foreign language. german, for instance...
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what do you guys think of this set? is this bad or okay or good?
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...3?SSAID=101512

Not a bad speaker set to start off with in a medium to small room
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what do you guys think of this set? is this bad or okay or good?
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...3?SSAID=101512

It is a starter system.

I would also look at the E3 series from Emptek
http://www.emptek.com/inventoryclearance.php

And this refurbish Denon receiver
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

This would keep you within your range >
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hate to sound like a jerk, but you just completely ignored the 8 posts above yours, since your last post. I predict you wont get much more different than what's already been said. If you insist on a HTIB set-up, you'll get much more positive input IN THAT FORUM. You'll also get recommendations that for that budget, you'd be better served getting your Home Theater from more than one box, but you can just ignore those, too.

I really don't mean to harsh on you like that, but c'mon man

its not like I ignored it, I just wanted to hear peoples opinion on these speakers. Just trying to get much as option as possible and then choosing
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and I truly never meant to sound mean, but individual speaker models or manufacturers will truly dominate this forum. This is just not the HTIB crowd. I started with that and would never look back and suspect few others here would... but HTIB enthusiasts have their entire different forum. So do those who by necessity or choice prefer soundbars, that might be an option, but I have no experience there.

If you want a really good one, you'll have to learn a foreign language. german, for instance...
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Just so you know, there are two reasons why we like to steer people away from HTIB setups. First, the tiny drivers don't have any mid-bass, and that means the sub has to handle all that. You get better sound just going to fuller range speakers with larger drivers, something that at least goes down below 80hz.

Then the subs with HTIB systems, because they have to handle the whole mid-bass range and are very inexpensive, they are not good performers for HT where people recommend you get a sub that goes down into the low 20hz range and have more volume output. There's low frequency content in movies that improves the HT immersion experience.

For $600 to $700, you'll get better sound by avoiding HTIBs.

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with your kind of budget i think everybody here is trying to help you from throwing your hard earned $600 on a htib which to the average person starting out would sound good because their so used to just tv speakers and they here sound coming from all sides now. but its the sound that everybodies trying to upgrade here. better and clearer voices better and more accurate sounds and feeling. imo with your kind of budget i would option on a 2.0 or 2.1 setup first and slowly add pieces as you can. its your choice if you want good home theater or great home theater

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yeah I understand, I guess I ll go for the $500-$600 dollar system, lower preferable haha, but if there is a huge difference between 500 and 600 I ll go with it.

Guess I start need to picking out the speakers now from the suggestions~
Choices choices..
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most important is actual room size and again i'm not trying to deture you from going with 5.1 now its was just another option.i'm sure other members will give you theirs

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Since you said you have a large room, a good deal would be 2 pairs of Polk Monitor 30s. They are $80 a pair after promo code (EMCNHNG33). Get the CS2 center at $109 (sale ends today on this). That would give you five full range speakers. Then add your sub and your receiver. A BIC F12, and that would leave you $250 for a receiver, such as the Onkyo TX-NR509 that roccopewterss and jay1 mentioned.

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avr suggestion - denon avr 1612 refurb. $220 + free i pod deck at accessories4less

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BIC America F12 sub $190

http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/ca...175658&ai=1550

$181 Shipped. Got mine here, fast, no hassles.

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http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/ca...175658&ai=1550
$181 Shipped. Got mine here, fast, no hassles.

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That does seem like one of the best prices I have seen on it.

Plus ebates gives 5% cash back at nothing but software.

Then the Polk speaker recommendation that cel4145 made plus any of the receiver recommendations made here.
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Since you said you have a large room, a good deal would be 2 pairs of Polk Monitor 30s. They are $80 a pair after promo code (EMCNHNG33). Get the CS2 center at $109 (sale ends today on this). That would give you five full range speakers. Then add your sub and your receiver. A BIC F12, and that would leave you $250 for a receiver, such as the Onkyo TX-NR509 that roccopewterss and jay1 mentioned.


I really love your recommendation for the speaker, but the center speaker might be too big for me, Im kinda afraid it might cover the portion of the tv lol. Its a 60 inch but its not hanged on wall but just the tv stand.
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http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/ca...175658&ai=1550

$181 Shipped. Got mine here, fast, no hassles.

thanks i think this one will be good, it had lots of good reviews on amazon.
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So if I just buy the 4 speaker of polk audio from new egg, a center piece, and a base, I will only need a receiver afterwards?
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Polk should have the dimensions on their website for the CS2. Measure and see if it fits. If not, then get the CS1 from Newegg. People here just recommended the CS2 as being worth the extra money, but if it won't fit . . .

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another option

denon avr 1612 $220

2- polk monitor 70's for fronts (manufactures refurb.)on ebay $335 free ship.
if you need to go to cs1 center they have it for $63

total $620

this will give you a great 3.0 foundation and reciever to add to. the 70's can go decently low in the bass dept. so you could do without the sub for awhile.then you can add a bic f-12 or bic pl200 sub and a pair of monitor 30 or polk m10 for rears just a suggestion

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