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I currently own an Onkyo HTIB (3200) and am sick of the lack of clarity and dialogue during movies. I need some advice on which setup to purchase. Any and all ideas would be appreciated. My wife will not have "large" speakers or towers as of now. She wants something small and pleasing to the eye somewhat (to the female eye that is). I know that you will not get the same sound out of satellites, etc. but for now it will have to do.

I was thinking of picking up one of several matched sets:
1. Polk Audio RM95 @newegg for $229
2. Def Tech Procinema 60 (Open Box) for $310
3. Klipsch Quintet SL for $350
4. KEF KHT1505 5.1 Speaker System for $530
5. Or an Energy system

The sets that do not have subs I will most likely get a BIC F-12, or maybe a sub around $100 so that I can afford the Onkyo 609 or 709 (320 or 460 refurb).

Any ideas, I want to only watch movies/tv and clarity and dialogue are more important than thunderous bass to us.
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Denon AVR-1612 receiver @ $299

4 x Polk Monitor 30 bookshelf speakers @ $109/pr. = $218

Polk Monitor CS1 center channel speaker @ $80

Klipsch Reference RW-12d subwoofer @ $299 (promo code offer ends today)
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I would not spend $460 on a receiver, for little speakers.
Keep the receiver cost down, and skip any $100 sub.

"The sets that do not have subs I will most likely get a BIC F-12, or maybe a sub around $100 so that I can afford the Onkyo 609 or 709 (320 or 460 refurb)"

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If you can up your budget a little this is probably the best of the high WAF lifestyle type speaker systems.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107TL35...d%7cPolk+Audio

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You will need a sub of course as you would with any of the satellite speaker systems.

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I currently own an Onkyo HTIB (3200) and am sick of the lack of clarity and dialogue during movies. I need some advice on which setup to purchase. Any and all ideas would be appreciated. My wife will not have "large" speakers or towers as of now. She wants something small and pleasing to the eye somewhat (to the female eye that is). I know that you will not get the same sound out of satellites, etc. but for now it will have to do.

I was thinking of picking up one of several matched sets:
1. Polk Audio RM95 @newegg for $229
2. Def Tech Procinema 60 (Open Box) for $310
3. Klipsch Quintet SL for $350
4. KEF KHT1505 5.1 Speaker System for $530
5. Or an Energy system

The sets that do not have subs I will most likely get a BIC F-12, or maybe a sub around $100 so that I can afford the Onkyo 609 or 709 (320 or 460 refurb).

Any ideas, I want to only watch movies/tv and clarity and dialogue are more important than thunderous bass to us.

I have 5 NHT SuperZero 2.0s that are 5 weeks old, and in brand new condition, with about 50hrs on them. You can see them here:

http://www.nhthifi.com/Bookshelf-speaker-SuperZero-2-0

http://www.hometheater.com/content/n...speaker-system

I would sell them for $85 shipped per speaker (as long as you're in continental USA). I doubt you find a better speaker, for the $...........Let me know!

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Before you jump to another speaker set - where is your center speaker located? Your clarity issue may be placement. If too low (near floor/rug) and pointed at your feet, the sound will be terrible. Also, what is your listening room environment like? hardwood/carpet floors? large/small room? etc....

Pictures would help everyone out.
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Since I recently upgraded wives I thought I would lend a few tips. Glad to see I misinterpreted the ask, and that you are receiving help.


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I have 5 NHT SuperZero 2.0s that are 5 weeks old, and in brand new condition, with about 50hrs on them. You can see them here:

http://www.nhthifi.com/Bookshelf-speaker-SuperZero-2-0

http://www.hometheater.com/content/n...speaker-system

I would sell them for $85 shipped per speaker (as long as you're in continental USA). I doubt you find a better speaker, for the $...........Let me know!

That is a great deal. Plus they're already broken in

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Since I recently upgraded wives I thought I would lend a few tips. Glad to see I misinterpreted the ask, and that you are receiving help.


Is that like applying a software patch? Or like purchasing a whole new model version?

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Thanks for all of the advice so far. The SuperZero's seem nice, would you just lay one down for the center? My current center is directly under my tv, about ear height. I have even tried adjusting the levels on my receiver so the center is louder than the fronts and sides, but no luck.

On the receiver, I liked the Onkyo's b/c of the auto-calibration features as I am no audiophile and do not have a great ear when it comes to speaker placement. Plus it would give me room for expansion when I finally talk the wife into larger speakers!

I like the TL Polk series, but the TL1600 or TL250's (pushing it) are the only ones I might be able to fit into my budget.
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Yes, you can turn the SZ 2.0 on its side, or leave up, whatever works best for your room layout.

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For a recevier I would save some money and get something like this:
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

It has Audyssey MultiEQ auto calibration.
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Any opinions on the Infinity Primus Theater Pack?
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For $125 more, you can have a set of much better speakers!

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Any opinions on the Infinity Primus Theater Pack?

If at all possible, try to get sats with at least a 4" woofer.
The Infinity is nice - however, the SuperZero midrange and
treble is really nice, for their price.

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I'm am thinking hard about the superzero's.
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I'd go with the 709. It has pre-outs. I'm reading between the lines and I can tell you would love to have a full blown tower speaker set up.

When you don't have a wife like mine (mine bought my 807 and a few of my speakers for me AND lets me have full reign in my cave set up), you have to coarse her and educate her so she understands that a great sound comes from a great set up with tower loud speakers.

That will take time, so if you start out with the 709, you will already have that part whipped so you can accommodate a larger set up by the time you have your wife trained in the art of H.T.

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