Originally Posted by grantc79
Depends on what your definition of "natural" and "good speakers" are.
I personally do not think 1,000 buys you a great set of new speakers.
Wrong. There have been PLENTY of great speakers produced and sold within $1000 that I've had the pleasure of hearing over the years. This of course depends heavily on the room the speakers are being put in (size, acoustics, reflections & distance to listening position) and the mounting/space/listening position limitations. There are so many factors that could limit or enhance the sound quality of a speaker design that making a blanket statement like you did falls far short of the reality.
Maybe 1,000 plus more for a sub will get you a pretty good 2 channel setup, but to have a great pair of full range speakers you'll need to spend at least 2,500 or so if you want true full range sound.
Again, this is hogwash. Good, heck even 'great' full range stereo sound can be had for far less than $2,500. Price is not an indicator of a listener's enjoyment of a product. I've heard cheap speakers with what seemed like major cost-cutting designs sound more pleasing than their expensive competitors.
I personally believe the upgrades up to 8,000-15,000 are still pretty noticeable and as you get higher and higher they become less and less noticeable.
IMO, noticable ONLY in terms of pure SPL output and visceral 'impact' (for those systems that are truly giving the buyer their money's worth at this price range). You better damn well expect not just a quality sound, but an 'experience' from the speakers.
Here's an example. You should expect a similar difference like you get when going from Polk's $1,000 tower speakers to the 13 year old $10,000 Polk SRT super towers when connected to 350 watt amps. You clearly are getting an upgrade and an experience you can't duplicate with their cheaper towers.
Once you get over 15,000 for a pair of speakers you really get into a lot of cosmetic differences and other random stuff that I personally don't deem as that important.
You should be getting well into the 'cosmetics' when going past $5,000. To expect anything less than an attractive system means you could've gone cheaper and got just as good a quality/SPL setup.
If paying over $5,000 for a pair of speakers, you better expect quality/pleasing sound, high output SPL & attractive looks. To get anything less is to be 'taken' on the deal.