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I just ordered a Epson 3010 but do not have any sound equipment for it. I have about $2500 to spend on the speakers and receiver.

The size of the room is 15x30 but only half will be used for the theater. I am looking for a 5.1 system that will give me great sound. It will be mostly used for movies, gaming and very little music if any. I would like them to be kind to the eyes.

I have also thought about spending some extra money on towers and just using those for now then getting the center and surrounds later but not sure how long it would take to get the others.

One more thing is that I like some good bass during a good movie too.

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
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Also if you guys have places you recommend to purchase the equipment would be helpful.
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$1500 for speakers

$500 for AVR

$1000 for sub

Take your pick of any that fit.

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To get started - and will be a little over.

KEF Q700
http://www.amazon.com/KEF-Q700CH-Sta...0305396&sr=8-3
Sub, HSU
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-15h.html

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Assuming your ceilings are no more than 10ft, and your room is not part of an open floor plan that opens into other rooms, I would recommend the HSU VTF-3 MK4, SVS PB12-NSD, or Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX subwoofers. Those should be sufficient for that space. If your space is over 5,000 cubic feet, then you will need more sub. All of these are Internet direct vendors that sell subs that are much better value than what you can buy in a brick and mortar store. If you research in the AVS subwoofer forum, you will find these brands are ones that everyone buys to get the best value

Since you have such a big room, I agree that towers make a lot of sense, especially if you plan to sometimes play music and fill that room. For towers, look at the Energy RC-70s, RC-LCR for a center, and the RC-10s for rear when you can afford them on down the road. See the Energy Owners Thread to learn more about the RC-70s.

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a suggestion

5 - chase home theater high efficient pro-10 speakers $1725

outlaw lfm-1ex $650

denon avr 791 - accessories4less refurb. $260

total $2635 a little over budget but guaranteed to fill your room with great sound

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$1500 for speakers

$500 for AVR

$1000 for sub

Take your pick of any that fit.


I like your math.
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I like your math.

have you not heard of inflation

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a suggestion

5 - chase home theater high efficient pro-10 speakers $1725

outlaw lfm-1ex $650

denon avr 791 - accessories4less refurb. $260

total $2635 a little over budget but guaranteed to fill your room with great sound

That's a very nice HT setup

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Thanks for all the advice. I will have to check them out. I just wish there was a place to listen to some of this stuff.

Keep the info coming.
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speaker + sub: Emp e55ti tower system $1744

http://store.audioholics.com/speaker...system-ii.html

Reciever: Denon AVR-2312CI $499


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speaker + sub: Emp e55ti tower system $1744

http://store.audioholics.com/speaker...system-ii.html

Reciever: Denon AVR-2312CI $499


http://www.accessories4less.com/make...eceiver/1.html

Great advice !!!

This looks like a fantastic system for the money, but do a little research. They have metal tweeters too, so the highs will be, well....high. Make sure you like metal vs. soft dome tweeters.

A good speaker with soft domes would be http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx.
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Great advice !!!

This looks like a fantastic system for the money, but do a little research. They have metal tweeters too, so the highs will be, well....high. Make sure you like metal vs. soft dome tweeters.

A good speaker with soft domes would be http://www.aperionaudio.com/home.aspx.

The Emp's have a fabric dome tweeter, not metal.
The closest preconfigured Aperion system is the Vertus Grand Bookcase at $1997. Very good system with an excellent sub:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...01,71,851.aspx
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My top recommendation for that kind of money would be PSB speakers, with a Rythmic FV12 subwoofer. PSB is one of the top speaker manufacturers in the world; excellent sound.

For the fronts, the PSB Image T5 towers for $980/ pair, the Image C4 center for $295, and the Image B4 speakers for $329/pair.

The Rythmic FV12 is $495 direct from the factory.

I have heard a lot of speakers in this price range, and IMO they are the best by far. They will give you some sound that will put a BIG smile on your face.

You can cut the PSB prices by about 20% at Saturday Audio if you are willing to get a factory refurbished unit or minor blem speaker. They are factory authorized and you get full warranty.

The Denon AVR-1712 is available for around $390, and will be probably be a top choice for your system.

The receiver is available at Amazon and others, and just do a google search for "PSB Image T5" and you will find Crutchfield and several dealers that sell them.




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I just ordered a Epson 3010 but do not have any sound equipment for it. I have about $2500 to spend on the speakers and receiver.

The size of the room is 15x30 but only half will be used for the theater. I am looking for a 5.1 system that will give me great sound. It will be mostly used for movies, gaming and very little music if any. I would like them to be kind to the eyes.

I have also thought about spending some extra money on towers and just using those for now then getting the center and surrounds later but not sure how long it would take to get the others.

One more thing is that I like some good bass during a good movie too.

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks guys I appreciate it.

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I just ordered a Epson 3010 but do not have any sound equipment for it. I have about $2500 to spend on the speakers and receiver.

The size of the room is 15x30 but only half will be used for the theater. I am looking for a 5.1 system that will give me great sound. It will be mostly used for movies, gaming and very little music if any. I would like them to be kind to the eyes.

I have also thought about spending some extra money on towers and just using those for now then getting the center and surrounds later but not sure how long it would take to get the others.

One more thing is that I like some good bass during a good movie too.

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks guys I appreciate it.

You will need about $1K of that budget for a subwoofer or two for that room.
I would spend no more than $300 on a receiver
That leaves you about $1200 for speakers

For home theater, the CHT speakers would be a good fit, and you may also want to look into Klipsch. You can start with the mains and then add surrounds as you can budget for them.
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This is what i would do:
from accessories4less
2-Kef Q700
1-Kef Q200
1-avr Denon 2310ci
Total- $1840

Hsu research
VTF-3 MK4- $659

Total $2499

Then i would add either kef Q100 or Q300s for rear surrounds when funds would allow to round out the system. ~$3000 total

p.s to OP. You may see that your music usage increase when see how good these speakers sound. I know mine have.

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It may take you a litte over budget, but VANN's is closing out the Boston acoustics VS series. The vs325 center is $279 (normally $899) and the vs260 bookshelves are $250 (normally $699 each).

They have 5 of the centers, 5 of the 260's, and 1 240 (smaller bookshelf) left.

The speakers will run 1280, so you'll have 1120 for a receiver and sub.

Check out my WAF approved living room theater

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1526916/my...-1-living-room
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I like the look of the black kef 700's and think those would be a workable option. but with accessories for less how much of an imperfection are you going to have?

Also someone mentioned klipsch these were appealing for me mainly because i can hear them and buy them locally and decent prices. Just wish i had things to compare them too.

How would the kef 700 compare to the reference series from klipcsh?
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imo if you are to use this system for just movies and games i would go with the klipsch rf series just because of their high senitivity which will give you all the loudness you need in your size room and you don't need alot of power to push them. the horns give wide soundstage and clairity at low level listening or very loud in your face. for music i personally don't care for horns but some people love them it's all suggestive. so if you can hear the klipsch see if you can have them hooked up to a video source and listen to a movie and not just music.and also get a "good" sub like the outlaw lfm-1ex or a few other "good" choice subs. it just makes everything come together from sound to the feeling. just my 2 cents

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The kefs are a great speaker. Where are you located?
If you havent you should pop into the kef thread. I just purchased the kef q300s from A4L. They are in basically new condition . I did not notice any dings or miscoloration. The boxes were sealed and the speakers were even wrapped in foam. So IMO they are brand new.

I do not know how they compare the klipsch. I personally dont like the sound of klipsch. Seems on the bright side to me.
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I like the look of the black kef 700's and think those would be a workable option. but with accessories for less how much of an imperfection are you going to have?

Also someone mentioned klipsch these were appealing for me mainly because i can hear them and buy them locally and decent prices. Just wish i had things to compare them too.

How would the kef 700 compare to the reference series from klipcsh?


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Thanks for all the help guys. Well my inner kid got the best of me the other day and
"needed something now".

I went to a local store and talked to the salesmen there and i told him my budget of 2500 for a surround sound system and he came back with two options. Both def tech, not sure how they sounded because he didn't offer to do a demo and because he was over 1000 over budget so i did not ask.. Its like he didn't even listen to me when i told him what i was looking for so i left.

I walked into the next local store and listened to the klipsch reference 52's with a rc 52 center rs 52 surrounds and a sw112. I liked the way that they sounded and its price tag. They gave me a pretty good deal on them and a Denon 2312 for $2512.
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Thanks for all the help guys. Well my inner kid got the best of me the other day and
"needed something now".

I went to a local store and talked to the salesmen there and i told him my budget of 2500 for a surround sound system and he came back with two options. Both def tech, not sure how they sounded because he didn't offer to do a demo and because he was over 1000 over budget so i did not ask.. Its like he didn't even listen to me when i told him what i was looking for so i left.

I walked into the next local store and listened to the klipsch reference 52's with a rc 52 center rs 52 surrounds and a sw112. I liked the way that they sounded and its price tag. They gave me a pretty good deal on them and a Denon 2312 for $2512.

Congratulations on the new system !!! Hope you will enjoy it.
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