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picked up the open crimp ones and no dice... looks like ill order some like you guys suggested GLS ones...
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I got 14 plugs for $10.97 from Ebay and they fit very well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...E:L:OC:US:3160

By the way, these ones have 2 screws used to secure the wire inside the screw on cover. Very foolproof.
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I've used these Nakamich plugs recently. They work just as well as any other plugs I have. Dual screws and plastic red/black jackets. Inexpensive but nice.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14-Nakamichi...item43a6b95f01

I've also used Monoprice closed screw, as well as GLS, Parts Express and many other brands. Never had a problem with any of them.

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I've used these Nakamich plugs recently. They work just as well as any other plugs I have. Dual screws and plastic red/black jackets. Inexpensive but nice.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14-Nakamichi...item43a6b95f01

I've also used Monoprice closed screw, as well as GLS, Parts Express and many other brands. Never had a problem with any of them.

I bought the monoprice closed screw and it doesnt fit in secure to the back of my motion 4's and 8 and 12's I have no clue why.....
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The best banana plugs I found were from sewelldirect. They are deadbolt plugs. They connect by bending the wire over and screwing down the bottom. Similar to the over priced cables from another vendor. 12 pair for 24 dollars, not bad.

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You could try taking a small flat blade screwdriver to spread the post part out till it's fatter and fits snug.

If there is no center post between the "leaves" of the contact you could place the plug on any hard surface and tap the top with a hammer (as if the banana plug was a nail). The "leaves" of the contact will spread out and provide a tight fit.
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The "leaves" of the contact will spread out and provide a tight fit.

That's exactly what I was trying to illustrate.
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Yeah, but my method won't work if there's a solid center post.
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The best banana plugs I found were from sewelldirect. They are deadbolt plugs. They connect by bending the wire over and screwing down the bottom. Similar to the over priced cables from another vendor. 12 pair for 24 dollars, not bad.

http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Deadb...gs-12-Pair.asp
Yeah, very nice price. Can you comment on their quality relative to the similar ones available from GLS?
http://www.speakerrepair.com/mm5/mer...e=safe_connect

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I will try my best, I find the quality to be very good, as good as the monsters I have. They fit tightly in my Yamaha receiver and my speakers. They seem to be well made. I have only had them about two weeks so it my be to short of a time to really judge them completely but I am very satisfied so far.

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I will try my best, I find the quality to be very good, as good as the monsters I have. They fit tightly in my Yamaha receiver and my speakers. They seem to be well made. I have only had them about two weeks so it my be to short of a time to really judge them completely but I am very satisfied so far.

Thanks. That price is just crazy.

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GLS ones didnt work so if anyone wants them for a killer price PM me
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GLS ones didnt work so if anyone wants them for a killer price PM me

????

So that's 3 sets you've tried in this thread? What do you mean they "didn't work"?

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????

So that's 3 sets you've tried in this thread? What do you mean they "didn't work"?

Must mean they are not a tight fit?
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The best thing to use is the "GR" or General Radio dual banana plug made by Pomona Electronics. They are designed to hold up in the lab being removed and replaced hundreds of times. A standard for 50 years. Top quality.

Amazon has them in red and black for $2.80.

They are good, but...due to an EU directive (dual bananas are the same spacing as an EU power plug) most speakers and amps don't have standard spacing.

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I've used these Nakamich plugs recently. They work just as well as any other plugs I have. Dual screws and plastic red/black jackets. Inexpensive but nice.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14-Nakamichi...item43a6b95f01

Those are, unfortunately, junk. Single-use plugs at best. I was surprised that most of mine had severe kinking when used in an Anthem MRX 300. I write "unfortunately" because I like the double-set-screw configuration and insulated barrels. But it's back to the 95-cent Parts Express plastic-barrel 'naners for me. Or the compression-fit GE-branded spades available at Home Depot for $5/pr. Or, when the equipment is good enough to have them (i.e. I designed it myself) SpeakOns.
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I am using the Nakamichi and they are not junk like u state with authority.
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I am using the Nakamichi and they are not junk like u state with authority.

Perhaps some of them aren't. The sawtooth-plugged ones are absolute crap. The banana section is simply too soft.

I state that "with authority" because I used them, but tossed them because most of 'em were heavily kinked. (The threads on the plastic barrels are also indifferently machined at best, but that's a fairly small issue compared to a deforming banana blade.) When I swapped amps (from using the internal ones in my Anthem MRX 300 to using a separate Sherwood Newcastle A-965) I saw how crappy they were.
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Sawtooth? Which ones are those?
I am using the ones that are on the eBay link and they have excellent threads as well as secure fit on my def tech speakers.
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They are good, but...due to an EU directive (dual bananas are the same spacing as an EU power plug) most speakers and amps don't have standard spacing.



Those are, unfortunately, junk. Single-use plugs at best. I was surprised that most of mine had severe kinking when used in an Anthem MRX 300. I write "unfortunately" because I like the double-set-screw configuration and insulated barrels. But it's back to the 95-cent Parts Express plastic-barrel 'naners for me. Or the compression-fit GE-branded spades available at Home Depot for $5/pr. Or, when the equipment is good enough to have them (i.e. I designed it myself) SpeakOns.

strange, I have 28 of them with no issues whatsoever.
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Sawtooth? Which ones are those?
I am using the ones that are on the eBay link and they have excellent threads as well as secure fit on my def tech speakers.

The ones pictured above, with the single thin blade terminating in wavy edges.

Perhaps their conventional-tip bananas are just fine, but the sawtooth (also sometimes called z-tooth or, incorrectly, BFA) ones they offer are horrid cheap crap. The 95-cent PE ones are markedly better. Not all sawtooth ones are junk. For instance, I've seen some Audioquest ones that, while wretchedly overpriced, were at least sturdy.

I still have 8 or so unused ones, if someone with lower standards wants to buy them from me. Given my experience with the ones I have used, I'm not going to waste my time with them...
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The ones pictured above, with the single thin blade terminating in wavy edges.

Perhaps their conventional-tip bananas are just fine, but the sawtooth (also sometimes called z-tooth or, incorrectly, BFA) ones they offer are horrid cheap crap. The 95-cent PE ones are markedly better. Not all sawtooth ones are junk. For instance, I've seen some Audioquest ones that, while wretchedly overpriced, were at least sturdy.

I still have 8 or so unused ones, if someone with lower standards wants to buy them from me. Given my experience with the ones I have used, I'm not going to waste my time with them...

oops. My bad. I thought you were commenting on my ebay link which actually looks like this

http://www.nakamichiplug.com/product-0534B50.html



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????

So that's 3 sets you've tried in this thread? What do you mean they "didn't work"?


They are not sitting flush/snug with the Martin Logan.... The sound works fine its just annoying as hell !
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They are not sitting flush/snug with the Martin Logan.... The sound works fine its just annoying as hell !

are they even suppose to sit flush? see picture above for reference.
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are they even suppose to sit flush? see picture above for reference.

Just saw that.... on the reciever they fit flush its just alot of "play" within i have no clue why its annoying though

But i have my gls ones for sale if anyone wants to buy them PM me
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here's how mine sits if it's any help I have the same ones as in chikoo's link.




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I got some banana plugs from Nakamichiplug.com . They are great. Gives the sound body! I have had multiple cables, interconnects, and connectors, and the only ting I have heard a difference in was stranded vs solid. I do believe i can hear that. I traded my brothers eichmann plugs with fancy silver wire in for diy Belden solid core RG6 and Neutrik RCA and he nor I could tell the difference.
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