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Besides Monitor Audio? Trying to help a friend out. He has 5 kids and he is afraid his kids will push his tweeters in and ruin them.
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Energy has a plastic guard in front of their tweeters on the RC line

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

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Some Focal speakers have perforated metal grilles over the tweeters
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I thought most or at least a lot of speakers had something protecting the tweeter... usually...

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I thought most or at least a lot of speakers had something protecting the tweeter... usually...

We checked out the B&W 683's today... all he did was stare at the tweeter
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Even if they did have some sort of protection id still worry about your woofers

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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We checked out the B&W 683's today... all he did was stare at the tweeter

I was at Bestbuy once, and I heard a customer ask for help with a speaker.

The customer asked the rep, how do you turn on this speaker, because that one won't come on.

I looked over, and he was showing the rep, that the button he was pushing wasn't making the B&W speaker come on. He was an adult, and he was pushing the tweeter as if it was an Off/On button.
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I was at Bestbuy once, and I heard a customer ask for help with a speaker.

The customer asked the rep, how do you turn on this speaker, because that one won't come on.

I looked over, and he was showing the rep, that the button he was pushing wasn't making the B&W speaker come on. He was an adult, and he was pushing the tweeter as if it was an Off/On button.

Smdh, so sad
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I just got a pair of EMP tek E55ti towers and they have a nice cover on the tweeter and the speaker is pretty high to so it might be tough for them to reach that high.

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I was at Bestbuy once, and I heard a customer ask for help with a speaker.

The customer asked the rep, how do you turn on this speaker, because that one won't come on.

I looked over, and he was showing the rep, that the button he was pushing wasn't making the B&W speaker come on. He was an adult, and he was pushing the tweeter as if it was an Off/On button.

Oh damn

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Besides Monitor Audio? Trying to help a friend out. He has 5 kids and he is afraid his kids will push his tweeters in and ruin them.

I know it sounds easy, but aside from speaker grills your friend is going to have to simply teach his kids not to touch daddy's gear. I have a 3 year old and a 5 year old. They've been taught since they've been old enough to start reaching for things not to touch my speakers and other gear. They know by now not to play near my speakers or the gear rack.

A little discipline on your friend's part will go a long way.
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Besides Monitor Audio? Trying to help a friend out. He has 5 kids and he is afraid his kids will push his tweeters in and ruin them.

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We checked out the B&W 683's today... all he did was stare at the tweeter

At my local Magnolia the tweeters on most of their B&Ws have a removable cover that seems to attach magnetically. Thinking maybe it might be some sort of optional phase or diffraction lens, I asked about them and was told they were simply there to protect them. I assume that the speakers come with them. Maybe not, though. Needless to say, being removable and not as protective as a full, screen-type grill, they were not protecting the tweeters there very well. Nearly all of them were pushed in, anyway.

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Energy has a plastic guard in front of their tweeters on the RC line

I doubt it is simply a guard, although it probably does happen to provide that function, to a degree. It is a phase, diffraction, or dispersion lens (they're different). Many manufacturer's tweeters include one. Paradigm, for example (diffraction? dispersion?). DefTech (phase). PSB (phase). And although they might happen to provide some protection, I doubt they would deter the grubby little fingers of a curious and determined toddler.

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I know it sounds easy, but aside from speaker grills your friend is going to have to simply teach his kids not to touch daddy's gear. I have a 3 year old and a 5 year old. They've been taught since they've been old enough to start reaching for things not to touch my speakers and other gear. They know by now not to play near my speakers or the gear rack.

A little discipline on your friend's part will go a long way.

I'm always amazed at the cluelessness of people who think that what worked for their kids, will work for all kids.

Honestly if the guy is worried, just go for shelf or wall mounts.
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Some Focal speakers have perforated metal grilles over the tweeters

And they are said to alter the sound quality so much that they must be removed whenever you wanna to use them. But Focal makes them super easy to remove.
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And they are said to alter the sound quality so much that they must be removed whenever you wanna to use them. But Focal makes them super easy to remove.

Curious as to where you heard that. It doesn't line up with what Focal says or my personal experience with them. I did a bit of an amateur hour blind test with a few friends a while back, and the results indicated that the difference wasn't enough to be consistently detected.
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The emp tek's have these grills. The towers are also pretty stable with the outriggers installed. And the grills are hard to remove. They are pretty kid friendly so far except for the open ports on the back.
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I'm always amazed at the cluelessness of people who think that what worked for their kids, will work for all kids.

Honestly if the guy is worried, just go for shelf or wall mounts.

Clueless?? I think not. What makes you the expert here? Why should it not work for other kids? Is is that difficult a task for a parent? As a parent, is it not our responsibility to teach our kids not to touch what isn't theirs?

And what if the guy can't use or doesn't want to use shelf or wall mounts?
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Ribbon/planar tweeter uses are behind a metal type grill will little slots. My Arx speakers have a metal/cast cover over the tweeter, you would have to use a very small pencil to damage the tweeters.
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Clueless?? I think not. What makes you the expert here? Why should it not work for other kids? Is is that difficult a task for a parent? As a parent, is it not our responsibility to teach our kids not to touch what isn't theirs?

And what if the guy can't use or doesn't want to use shelf or wall mounts?

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I raised two kids and never had a problem with them touching my gear.
Its all about telling them what they are NOT allowed to do. And if they do it, they get punished.
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Curious as to where you heard that. It doesn't line up with what Focal says or my personal experience with them.

http://www.stereophile.com/content/f...speaker-page-2

And my personal experience with my Chorus as well. Much more defined clearer highs.

Anyway, what's all this paranoia with kids and tweeters. Look at the speakers I put in my kid's playroom Just keep them focused on the TV... on the TV...
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When you have kids you have to make sacrifices.. Just get book shelf speakers and mount them on the walls. Problem solved.. The problem with todays society is.. If you punish your kid you get reported to child services.. How sad! Also,with so many divorces,kids only learn what they do in day care.. Again sad! That's one of the many reasons I don't want kids. Doesn't fit my life style anyhow. I like to go out and do things.. Not kid things..
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Again sad! That's one of the many reasons I don't want kids. Doesn't fit my life style anyhow. I like to go out and do things.. Not kid things..

There's a time for everything and yea I used to be in your position, until I got 3 kids, then I realize they are the greatest blessings life could offer. Divorces and daycares are problems created by the parents, not the kids. Back in 2009 I left this site to pursue extreme mountain biking which resulted in a knee surgery. I got 2 busted knees now but I think it's the greatest thing that ever happened to me as I came to realize the important things in life. That being close to your family and making sure your kids don't grow up the wrong way.

Back on topic, just get a pair of really heavy towers and bolt their backs to the wall. Make sure the tweeters have real metal mesh like Focal or Usher.
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There's a time for everything and yea I used to be in your position, until I got 3 kids, then I realize they are the greatest blessings life could offer. Divorces and daycares are problems created by the parents, not the kids. Back in 2009 I left this site to pursue extreme mountain biking which resulted in a knee surgery. I got 2 busted knees now but I think it's the greatest thing that ever happened to me as I came to realize the important things in life. That being close to your family and making sure your kids don't grow up the wrong way.

That's all very true and funny how things work out. Your intelligent,I like that..

Back on topic, just get a pair of really heavy towers and bolt their backs to the wall. Make sure the tweeters have real metal mesh like Focal or Usher.

And duct tape the grilles to the speaker..lol
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And duct tape the grilles to the speaker..lol

Actually I had my PSB Alpha B1's painted over with real automotive paint, went through the oven and all and had its grilles glued in place. They used to be in the kids' room.
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Pretty stupid remark there buzzy, I gotta say.

Kids do things because they're curious, and kids are curious because they're learning things. Go to Goodwill, buy a cheap speaker and have a fun time taking it apart, teaching them what a speaker does and why it's not a toy, why Daddy's speakers are important to him. Teaching a child goes a long way, discipline in itself, not so much.

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I have the exact same concern as you....kids LOVE to push in shiny round things.

Check out the PSB Imagine series. The ENTIRE grille is perforated metal. No chance of pushing in the tweeter or the woofer either

Come to think of it, the PSB Alpha series also has solid metal grilles as well.

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I have the exact same concern as you....kids LOVE to push in shiny round things.

I should post a pic of my daughter's ballpoint drawing on the side of my Usher Be-718. Don't even ask about the grill as I need to wash it off to get rid of the soup spots and other kid's dirt related stuff.
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Orb Audio, oh wait the entire speaker is a tweeter.

Some of klipches speakers have guards inside thier horns, and so the BIC acoustech speakers that copy off klipsch.

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