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In the market for new speakers, currently my pieced together system includes:

AVR: Denon AVR-1612
2 Fronts: Axiom M3Ti
Used 80% for TV/Movies, 15% Gaming, 5% music.

Looking to replace the Axiom's because they are actually my roommates and he is moving out.

Room is rectangular; 17x12. Live in a 1st floor condo so there is no one below me, but an older couple live above me.

Still deciding if I should get a 2.1 setup or 3.0? Right now my focus is replacing Left and Right's.

Thanks for the suggestions!
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In the market for new speakers, currently my pieced together system includes:

AVR: Denon AVR-1612
2 Fronts: Axiom M3Ti

Looking to replace the Axiom's because they are actually my roommates and he is moving out.

Room is rectangular; 17x12. Live in a 1st floor condo so there is no one below me, but an older couple live above me.

Still deciding if I should get a 2.1 setup or 3.0? Right now my focus is replacing Left and Right's.

Thanks for the suggestions!

If you can stretch your budget a bit, these are excellent speakers:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=98666.0

Ron does an excellent job building the GR Research kits (I've been to his place and have heard/seen them first hand).

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If you can stretch your budget a bit, these are excellent speakers:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=98666.0

Ron does an excellent job building the GR Research kits (I've been to his place and have heard/seen them first hand).

$500 is as much as I can stretch it right now.. Remember I'll be adding a center within a few months too..
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Is it bad I haven't heard of any of these speakers?
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Is it bad I haven't heard of any of these speakers?

If you're new to online speaker forums, no that's normal.

Here's something you might be more familiar with, on closeout.

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Boo...4183598&sr=1-2

You might have trouble finding the center in a few months though


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If you can stretch your budget a bit, these are excellent speakers:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=98666.0

Ron does an excellent job building the GR Research kits (I've been to his place and have heard/seen them first hand).

Very similar.

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=104815.0
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Is it bad I haven't heard of any of these speakers?

No it isn't bad. If you are still new to audio, that's perfectly fine, we all start from somewhere. I myself have not heard the Focal's or KEF's, but I did recently get a pair of CBM-170's in the link posted above. I really enjoy the way they sound, and not only do they fit in your budget but they offer a 30 day in home trial. If you don't like them, you just pay a small return shipping fee.

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If you're new to online speaker forums, no that's normal.

Here's something you might be more familiar with, on closeout.

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Boo...4183598&sr=1-2

You might have trouble finding the center in a few months though

Is it worth spending money on a discontinued speaker? I mean, they must be discontinued for a reason, right?
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Also, are budget floor-standing speakers (under $300 each) really that much superior over bookshelf speakers?
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Also, are budget floor-standing speakers (under $300 each) really that much superior over bookshelf speakers?

They will reach lower than a bookshelf which is good for two channel audio w/ no subwoofer. However, for the same price range you can generally get a much better bookshelf speaker.

something to consider: http://www.chasehometheater.com/foru...ead.php?t=4813
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Is it worth spending money on a discontinued speaker? I mean, they must be discontinued for a reason, right?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the LSi is being replaced with a newer LSiM line of speakers. If someone more familiar with Polk Audio can help to clarify this I would appreciate it.

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I'm not 100% sure, but I think the LSi is being replaced with a newer LSiM line of speakers. If someone more familiar with Polk Audio can help to clarify this I would appreciate it.

I think you're probably right. Too bad you can't find the LSiC in Cherry anywhere. $400 is a great price for those LSi7's.
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Is it worth spending money on a discontinued speaker? I mean, they must be discontinued for a reason, right?

1. These are FANTASTIC speakers. The Lsi line is 15+ years old and has been replaced by the LsiM in the last year or so. A great speaker for the money

2. That being said, they are 4 ohm speakers and your receiver will not handle them, especially not with a center channel.
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LSiC's were never in cherry I don't think... weren't they all just piano black?
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1. These are FANTASTIC speakers. The Lsi line is 15+ years old and has been replaced by the LsiM in the last year or so. A great speaker for the money

2. That being said, they are 4 ohm speakers and your receiver will not handle them, especially not with a center channel.

ahh thanks for the heads up. Maybe the RTi A3's would be the next best thing?
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These might be worth looking at:

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...y-v5-1-monitor

I have heard the Veritas series might be eliminated, but they are nice looking speakers, and have a great sound.

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Rti's are supposedly great speakers for HT. If you go this route, get the Csi A6 to go with. With Polk being a big box brand you shouldn't have too much trouble tracking down a pair of the A3's to listen before you buy.
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These might be worth looking at:

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...y-v5-1-monitor

I have heard the Veritas series might be eliminated, but they are nice looking speakers, and have a great sound.

Mike

I've heard good things about the RC10s. Like I said before - try to get your ears on some things. That's when you'll really figure out what you like. A good friend of mine loves his B&W bookshelves. I however cannot stand them.
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Wharfedale Diamond 10.2's are pretty impressive bookshelves for $450
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These and these are worth a look in that price range. Only bad thing is that there's no horizontal style center channel so you'd need to place another below your tv.
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A lot of options for sure.. Thanks for the suggestions
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I own the LSI9, quite good speakers but you have already been informed that the LSi series would be difficult with your receiver.

Webomatic's choice was one set (actually I was looking at 10.1's) that I was unable to audition out of many that I did, unfortunately I could not find any to listen to in my area. From all accounts the Wharfedale are very good speakers.

I did audition Energy RC-10, great speakers for the price, they are worth checking out.

Another in your price range, recommended only because I own their lower end Carnival 2, are the Mordaunt Short Aviano 1. I have not heard them but based on how much I love my Carnivals I'm betting that the Aviano line is also a very nice speaker.

One thing to bear in mind, depending on where you plan to place them be aware that some speakers are rear ported and will need some separation from the wall/bookshelf behind them.

Each of the speakers above is available on Amazon. I highly recommend listening to a few pairs, even if you must pay for return shipping - the effort will be well worth it, and each of the above is also under your $500 limit.

Best of luck!

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You can't go wrong with the CBM-170SEs or B-stock KEF Q300s. Both are quite efficient so your 1612 should drive them just fine.

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I own the LSI9, quite good speakers but you have already been informed that the LSi series would be difficult with your receiver.

Webomatic's choice was one set (actually I was looking at 10.1's) that I was unable to audition out of many that I did, unfortunately I could not find any to listen to in my area. From all accounts the Wharfedale are very good speakers.

I did audition Energy RC-10, great speakers for the price, they are worth checking out.

Another in your price range, recommended only because I own their lower end Carnival 2, are the Mordaunt Short Aviano 1. I have not heard them but based on how much I love my Carnivals I'm betting that the Aviano line is also a very nice speaker.

One thing to bear in mind, depending on where you plan to place them be aware that some speakers are rear ported and will need some separation from the wall/bookshelf behind them.

Each of the speakers above is available on Amazon. I highly recommend listening to a few pairs, even if you must pay for return shipping - the effort will be well worth it, and each of the above is also under your $500 limit.

Best of luck!

Good point about the rear-ported speakers. I don't have much space to play with so that limits my choices to front ported speakers only.
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Good point about the rear-ported speakers. I don't have much space to play with so that limits my choices to front ported speakers only.

Focal Chorus 700 or 800 series then.
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Focal Chorus 700 or 800 series then.

Beautiful looking speakers. Do they have online retailers?
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Good point about the rear-ported speakers. I don't have much space to play with so that limits my choices to front ported speakers only.

Please note that many rear ported speakers can be plugged, but of course this changes their sound (not necessarily for the worst). Energy RC-10, which is a great speaker, is one of them. Tons of threads mention this, do a search and learn more of the different characteristics with either configuration.

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For your budget, the RC-10's at 300, the RC-LCR (matching center) for 249. Total 549 if you can stretch your budget. I have both types, excellent laid back speakers.
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