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post #91 of 128 Old 04-14-2012, 08:51 AM
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Having served my country, I will defend your right to do just that, but don't insult my intelligence by saying that this nation is an oppressor of anyone. And before you spout some left-wing ideology on me( I was raised by the best) I suggest that you read your history and know it well. Has America been perfect, hell no! have we lived up to our founding principles...hell no! In spite of this, do people still come from all over the globe to become a part of the greatest nation on earth? HELL YES! You should ask yourself why that is before you buy into the OWS hype.

The other part of your post... the "inequality" part is also basically bs. If that were the case today, as it certainly was in the beginning, you wouldn't see so many blinged out Phantom's and Lambo's in the videos of today. I see gangster-style rap as nothing more than a recruitment tool for the thug-life.

http://voices.yahoo.com/drug-dealers...981.html?cat=9

I choose not to listen to it...

wow, just wow....must be nice to live in a bubble and not have face reality.

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I found this on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDQcOcJJk-E
A lot of people were giving him a hard time. I feel like they are his speakers. He should be able to listen to what he wants on them. I see a lot of people leave rude comments on youtube stereo videos.
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If I was Magnepan I would do everything in my power to have this video removed.
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He probably stole them!!!
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I watched it and read the comments. I don't think they are from audiophiles that don't like rap, I think they are from (rude) people who came to the obvious conclusion that the owner didn't have a clue. He didn't really know the brand name, was only impressed because they were skinny, and was placing them side-by-side.

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I love to listen to RAP on speakers like Maggies. I like the volume at polite levels and the bass neutered so I can concentrate on the lyrics.

BTW, great Thread and discussion ...

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Wow, this thread is still going, huh? Imagine that.

I thought I answered it in the first response to the OP.

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To the closed minded, Educate yourself: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post21902982
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I seriously do not know what I like. I have Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon, and while recording is awesome, it does not evoke any feelings. Songs/music is supposed to do to that to the listener.

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You have to be high to get Pink Floyd.

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You should hear the SACD/multichannel version. That will change your minds.

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Bottom line they're your speakers. Listen to whatever the heck you want on them. I personally don't care for rap/hip hop. But that just a personal preference.

And I agree with the others, Pink Floyd is excellent ( and no you don't have to be high ). The newer multi channel stuff is amazing. Though I prefer Parson's Quad mix to Guthrie's 5.1 (have the Immersion and SACD both). On Wish You Were Here, I do prefer the 5.1 to the Quad (Parson wasn't involved with this one).

Seriously speaking, Pink Floyd - The dark side of the moon is a wonderful exercise in music recording. I can hear and visualize that if I close my mind. That's it. I don't see any emotions or foot tapping music associated with it that stirs me.
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Seriously speaking, Pink Floyd - The dark side of the moon is a wonderful exercise in music recording. I can hear and visualize that if I close my mind. That's it. I don't see any emotions or foot tapping music associated with it that stirs me.

If you get a chance, check out the DVD "The Making of Dark Side of The Moon" (or something like that). Very interesting look at what went into it. They really were ahead of their time.

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Listening to Rap on Magnepans, nothing wrong with that, perhaps I could come over and bring some Snooky Pryor discs to spin..........
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Can I listen to rap on my earbuds? or a Bose? or my computer's speakers??

Can I.....
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Rap music is frowned on by audiophiles, regardless of the speaker. The only recordings audiophiles like are technically excellent but artistically dull.

That is very true. The technical aspacts are more important.
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Wow, still debating this...
If you think it is music, it is music. It could be dogs farting, but to each his own.
Isnt the "role" of a good speaker to reproduce the sound of whatever you are listening to to as close as the original as possible? So, Rap, classical or country...a good speaker is a good speaker.

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LOL @ left wing ideology. That little diatribe painted a much clearer picture of its source. I almost want to listen to rap now.

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I don't see any emotions or foot tapping music associated with it that stirs me.

You mean even something like this: http://www.beatport.com/track/bamboo...al-mix/3242937

'Course Maggies would probably very much benefit from a sub for listening to that.

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You mean even something like this: http://www.beatport.com/track/bamboo...al-mix/3242937

'Course Maggies would probably very much benefit from a sub for listening to that.

Nope...but I enjoy this one

http://www.beatport.com/track/fading...dio-mix/669134
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This is an all time favorite of mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLz4d...eature=related
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Thanks to bands such as N.W.A(and i knew the members of this group PERSONALLY) it became acceptable to "F*&^ da Police".

I don't want to jump on anyone's politics here, but just a comment on this line. I'd say Cohen v. California (1971) had more to do with the public's right to publicly, and in the views of some, profanely, express their views about authority figures. The Supreme Court said it was acceptable 17 years before Straight Outta Compton was released.

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This is an all time favorite of mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLz4d...eature=related

Not bad. Not quite my taste, but that's the beauty of the whole dance/electronic music genre scene. There is tons of diversity between house, progressive house, nu disco, trance, hardstyle, drum 'n' bass, dub step, electro house, techno, hip hop, old skool, trip hop, etc.--way more than most people would imagine.

I wonder if rap mashup would count as music for those that say rap isn't music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo5bBq2j2EE. I'm betting that's too much for that crowd

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Not bad. Not quite my taste, but that's the beauty of the whole dance/electronic music genre scene. There is tons of diversity between house, progressive house, nu disco, trance, hardstyle, drum 'n' bass, dub step, electro house, techno, hip hop, old skool, trip hop, etc.--way more than most people would imagine.

I wonder if rap mashup would count as music for those that say rap isn't music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo5bBq2j2EE. I'm betting that's too much for that crowd

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My cousin is friends with Girl Talk and featured him in one of his films. He's friggin amazing ehh!
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My cousin is good friends with Girl Talk and featured him in one of his films. He's friggin amazing ehh!

It wasn't Girl Walk All Day, was it? I saw it at the SXSW Film Festival this year. Girl Talk's music had people dancing in the aisles during the film. LOL

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It wasn't Girl Walk All Day, was it? I saw it at the SXSW Film Festival this year. Girl Talk's music had people dancing in the aisles during the film. LOL

YA! Brett got some great footage there for sure! The film of his it's in is called RIP! A Remix Manifesto but it's also in that video if it's the same footage I'm thinking of.

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Here is a playlist of Girl Talk's mashup GENIUS

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Not bad. Not quite my taste, but that's the beauty of the whole dance/electronic music genre scene. There is tons of diversity between house, progressive house, nu disco, trance, hardstyle, drum 'n' bass, dub step, electro house, techno, hip hop, old skool, trip hop, etc.--way more than most people would imagine.

I wonder if rap mashup would count as music for those that say rap isn't music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo5bBq2j2EE. I'm betting that's too much for that crowd

The setup I have when I listen to this techno/dance tracks is essentially 4 outdoor speakers powered by a Sherwood stereo amp strategically placed on 25ft ceilings in a closed environment.....it feels like I want to dance all day.
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Several off topic posts reported and removed. Kindly keep your comments audio related.

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Cool speakers wrong type of music for them. Makes you wonder how someone comes accross a 2k pr of speakers and knows nothing about them spending that type of coin and runs them off a cheap receiver. Maybe with a sun they woudl be better.

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I listen to J-Pop on a pair of Revel Studio2s, I guess I'm not an audiophile but an adolescent
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I leave AVS for the weekend and come back to see threads completely falling apart what in the world!

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

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The reason, specifically, that I don't like much of the rap format is not because of the genre, the beat or the sound... it has to do with the message and the image projected by the artists that perform it today. Rap has evolved radically from it's humble beginnings in the early '70's and did not really gain popularity until it morphed into the coercive, negative style of today. Thanks to bands such as N.W.A(and i knew the members of this group PERSONALLY) it became acceptable to "F*&^ da Police".

Rock music has always had it's share of angst, but rap and a few non-rap groups("pumped up kicks" anyone) are filled with imagery promoting lack of respect for human life, raping and killing, mayhem and destruction. When I fire up the two channel rig, I want to relax, not become angry and agitated.

I understand more about rap than you know. I know it's history of violence and I choose not to participate in it.

That's a stereotype of rap music :/

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Having served my country, I will defend your right to do just that, but don't insult my intelligence by saying that this nation is an oppressor of anyone. And before you spout some left-wing ideology on me( I was raised by the best) I suggest that you read your history and know it well. Has America been perfect, hell no! have we lived up to our founding principles...hell no! In spite of this, do people still come from all over the globe to become a part of the greatest nation on earth? HELL YES! You should ask yourself why that is before you buy into the OWS hype.

The other part of your post... the "inequality" part is also basically bs. If that were the case today, as it certainly was in the beginning, you wouldn't see so many blinged out Phantom's and Lambo's in the videos of today. I see gangster-style rap as nothing more than a recruitment tool for the thug-life.

http://voices.yahoo.com/drug-dealers...981.html?cat=9

I choose not to listen to it...

Easy now man, I don't think he was calling the US oppressors. I think it was more on the line that the artists in the RAP genre feel like they are being oppressed

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Cool speakers wrong type of music for them. Makes you wonder how someone comes accross a 2k pr of speakers and knows nothing about them spending that type of coin and runs them off a cheap receiver. Maybe with a sun they woudl be better.

As many of us have already stated there is no "wrong type of music" for any equipment. They may be less than ideal, but who is to say that rap is the only music listened to on them. I spent 3k on a set of Dynaudio Audience 82s and the only system I had to drive them for about 6 years was a 40watt (total) telefunken component system from the 70s. It was definitely not ideal and was only able to enjoy at lower listening levels, but that was the first stepping stone and it took that long for me to be able to afford an amp to properly drive them. Now I am running a Perreaux PMF3150 at 500wpc into 4Ohms and man can those puppies sing! There are people out there that would still try to dictate what I should listen to on my setup or tell me that what I have isn't good enough.

Music is all about personal choice and not what others think. Equipment is the same. We may not agree with how the equipment is being used, but the best thing that we can do as audiophiles is be constructive and offer suggestion rather than jumping all over people about how they build their systems and telling them they are idiots.
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I listen to J-Pop on a pair of Revel Studio2s, I guess I'm not an audiophile but an adolescent

But listening to MFlo is the same as listening to rap
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Easy now man, I don't think he was calling the US oppressors. I think it was more on the line that the artists in the RAP genre feel like they are being oppressed

Not in the sense of the extreme oppression of totalitarian regimes (although, one can argue that the US foreign policy did contribute to that during the 20th century). But the theme of some rap music does center on social injustices that are considered a form of oppression, such as racial profiling.

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