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jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 01:52 PM 05-27-2012
Hi everyone,

This is my first crack at putting together a 2.0/2.1 speaker system. I am a complete newb when it comes to this so any advice will be greatly appreciated!

I was originally planning on purchasing a Bose Cinemate II system but after reading unfavorable reviews on this site, I've decided I'd be better off building my own system. I will be using it mostly for tv/movie watching as well as playing music. I want to spend somewhere between 600-800. The only HD sources will be a cable box and panasonic 3d blu ray (possibly an xbox360 down the road).

I would like to have the airplay feature so that i can stream music from my computer or iphone. I figured the Denon AVR-1613 would be a good start. I just have no idea what type of speakers and sub I should pair with this. I like my music and movies loud with good bass. Any suggestions? Is the Denon a good start or am I going in the wrong direction?

Jay1's Avatar Jay1 02:17 PM 05-27-2012
Register with newegg and buy this Energy S10.3 right now, it's $189.00 with code EMCYTZT1649. This is the best sub you can get under $300. The sale ends today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...energy%20s10.3

You're going to need decent sized speakers as well for your goal. If you want bookshelf sized speakers these Boston A26's are a good bet

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...s-White/1.html

If you can fit floorstanders these Pioneer's are a steal at $150 pr

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eer-_-82117403
zieglj01's Avatar zieglj01 03:19 PM 05-27-2012
^^^^
X2 on Jay1 reccomendations.

A Denon receiver is a good start, and there are some
refurb Denons at AC4L
jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 03:37 PM 05-27-2012
So I'm looking at a Denon AVR-1613 @ $350, Energy S10.3 Sub @ $189 leaving approx 200-250 for bookshelves. Any recs in this price range? Is it safe to assume i will get better performance that a bose cinemate II?
Jay1's Avatar Jay1 03:38 PM 05-27-2012
Those Boston A26's were $200pr
zieglj01's Avatar zieglj01 03:42 PM 05-27-2012
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So I'm looking at a Denon AVR-1613 @ $350, Energy S10.3 Sub @ $189 leaving approx 200-250 for bookshelves. Any recs in this price range? Is it safe to assume i will get better performance that a bose cinemate II?

The Boston A26 and Energy sub, will pancake the Bose.

Same here > $200 a pair, and free shipping
http://www.onecall.com/product/Bosto...ker/_/R-115578
jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 03:55 PM 05-27-2012
Awesome, I appreciate the insight. I had read on here that the energy rc-10s were a solid performer. How would these compare to the bostons?
taxi_driver's Avatar taxi_driver 01:47 AM 05-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Jay1 View Post

Register with newegg and buy this Energy S10.3 right now, it's $189.00 with code EMCYTZT1649. This is the best sub you can get under $300. The sale ends today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...energy%20s10.3

You're going to need decent sized speakers as well for your goal. If you want bookshelf sized speakers these Boston A26's are a good bet

http://www.accessories4less.com/make...s-White/1.html

If you can fit floorstanders these Pioneer's are a steal at $150 pr

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eer-_-82117403

missed the sale on that sub, kinda pricey for what im looking for.

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^^^^
X2 on Jay1 reccomendations.

A Denon receiver is a good start, and there are some
refurb Denons at AC4L

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Originally Posted by jjmcwilder View Post

So I'm looking at a Denon AVR-1613 @ $350, Energy S10.3 Sub @ $189 leaving approx 200-250 for bookshelves. Any recs in this price range? Is it safe to assume i will get better performance that a bose cinemate II?

check out the denon 1612 on amazon, going for cheap right now.

if you live by a fry's, check out the infinity p363s. just picked up a pair the other day for 200. building a system just like yours.

considering this sub too
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...8&FTR=sub-1000
JimWilson's Avatar JimWilson 09:51 AM 05-28-2012
If you missed out on the Energy sub another possible option is the Klipsch RW12d. It costs more then the Energy would have, but even at $299 it's still a very solid deal. But, like the Energy, you'll have to act fast; the sale ends today.
jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 02:51 PM 05-28-2012
So I was able to get the Energy s10.3 sub yesterday for 189. Now Im trying to decide between the Boston Acoustic A26s or Energy CB-20s. The boston's are cheaper so if there isn't a huge gap between these two choices that will likely be my decision
Jay1's Avatar Jay1 02:54 PM 05-28-2012
I would go with the Bostons.
cel4145's Avatar cel4145 06:29 PM 05-28-2012
The Energy RC-10s are $279 through today at Vanns. I think they are better speakers than the CB-20s.

Also, if you'd like a better receiver, accessories4less has a factory reconditioned/factory warrantied Denon AVR-2112CI for only a little more than that 1613. Here's the spec sheet.
jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 09:04 PM 05-28-2012
What sort of benefit for my setup will the Denon AVR-2112CI have over the 1613?
Jay1's Avatar Jay1 09:15 PM 05-28-2012
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What sort of benefit for my setup will the Denon AVR-2112CI have over the 1613?

Audyssey XT (better auto EQ), stronger amp section (90 x 7 vs 75 x 5,), and 7.1 in case you ever decide to expand.
jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 01:00 PM 05-29-2012
How does the Pioneer VSX 822-K compare to the Denon 1613 for my setup? I found it for 299.
jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 06:32 PM 05-29-2012
Also found Energy RC-10's for 250. I'm not sure which will be better sounding for my setup - RC-10's or Boston A26s. I have no way of listening to either of these choices in person so appreciate everyone's feedback.
zieglj01's Avatar zieglj01 06:35 PM 05-29-2012
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Also found Energy RC-10's for 250. I'm not sure which will be better sounding for my setup - RC-10's or Boston A26s. I have no way of listening to either of these choices in person so appreciate everyone's feedback.

Simple decisions are easy - however, Energy people will tell you Energy.
And, Boston people will tell you Boston. If you really can not make a
decision, then do a coin toss.
jjmcwilder's Avatar jjmcwilder 06:43 PM 05-29-2012
Haha ya, its all too easy to over think this as there are so many options. I'm assuming its the same situation choosing between the Denon and Pioneer receiver?
zieglj01's Avatar zieglj01 06:54 PM 05-29-2012
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Haha ya, its all too easy to over think this as there are so many options. I'm assuming its the same situation choosing between the Denon and Pioneer receiver?

Pioneer, has stepped it up recently with their receiver performace.
Denon overall, has been more efficient with power handling in the
surround mode. Most people choose based on frills and the speaker
set up options. I do not get caught up, in the which receiver sounds
better game, I at best, only hear a minor difference.
afrogt's Avatar afrogt 07:05 PM 05-29-2012
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Haha ya, its all too easy to over think this as there are so many options. I'm assuming its the same situation choosing between the Denon and Pioneer receiver?

Denon has Audyssey MultiEQ which eq's the subwoofer, the Pioneer's MCACC does not eq the subwoofer.

The Denon 1613 has a limited number of inputs, if everything you have is HDMI I guess you'll be fine. Looks kinda bare in the back. No AM radio on the Denon, just FM.

Denon has a 2 year warranty, Pioneer only 1 year.
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