Originally Posted by wlhungdude
I'll give it a shot... I had an Onkyo HTIB , and wanted to upgrade, and liked the looks of, and the positive comments here, so I got Monitor 70's (with a CS2 and M50's for rears). Lots of drivers, impressive size and looks, etc., and they were a huge improvement over the Onkyo's. All good, right? And it was. Until I got the bug to get a real sub.
Not wanting to buy the wrong tool for the job, and researched like crazy, and got a HSU vtf3 mk 3. It was the largest ported sub they offered at the time. And knowing the M70's went down to a listed 30 hz (but truly a -3db more like 40hz), I set the crossover for them at 40hz, and thought it sounded great. I had a hard time with the mental reasoning of a higher x-over point, thinking it would be a 'waste' not letting them do all they could.
But, with tweaking being so much a part of this hobby, I eventually did try the 'recommended' 80 hz... just to see. And it was a real eye opener. Now my mids and highs sounded even better! Freeing them from the strain of trying to reproduce everything from 40 to 80 hz, just made them sound better from 80 hz and up.
And the sub really did a better job with the low stuff than the Polks ever did. (Thank you Dr. Hsu !)l
And then the bug bit again... and already being so impressed with HSU, I ordered a set of 4 HB1's and an HC1. An almost sideways step price-wise, but I will say that one quality 6.5 inch driver (and a great tweeter) did better than all those (cheaper) Polk drivers put together.
Do they go down to 40 hz ? No, but I never intended to use them without a sub. And then I did. (remember the tweaking thing) And they are quite competent, for music, on their own. Impressive is a better word. Could they go as low as the Polks? No, but what they could do, they did much better, cleaner, and just as loud. More accurately, for sure. And with a sub? No comparison.
Granted, I listen to 95% music / radio / tv and 5% movies (if that), but I have a system that covers all those bases, with authority. Were the big towers with all those drivers a 'waste of money' ? Probably, but I don't think I'd have been drawn to those small bookshelf sized speakers at the time, because I wanted big, imposing looking towers, and truly didn't know any better then.
So, after all that rambling... I'd suggest getting the sub first. See how much better your speakers sound with a true subwoofer, and then decide if you need to upgrade them. You were already planning on getting a sub, so just shift the order, and you may find your priorities changing, as well.
Hope it helps,