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Hi everyone,
I am new to AVS. I am having some trouble deciding on a center channel for my system and am hoping to get your adivce. My front L and R speakers are Speakercraft MT6 Threes, my rear speakers are Speakercraft AIM 7 Threes and I have yet to get subwoofer. My TV is Panasonic VIERA TC-P55VT50.

I am trying to get a center channel that will be sound matched and produce a nice even flow within the system above. I was originally thinking about the Bowers & Wilkins HTM61 or the HTM62. What do you think about those? Any others that you think are comparable or better? My max price for the center channel is right at $650. Also, if you have any thoughts on a matching sub, I'd be curious to know that as well.

Many thanks to those that take the time to respond....greatly appreciated.
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I'd probably call Speakercraft and see what they recommend. It's a bad idea to go with different manufacturers for the front 3 channels, so sticking with Speakercraft is probably your best option.

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Agreed. Plus, the HTM61 does not have a great reputation as a center channel.

For subs, look at Internet direct brands like HSU, SVS, Outlaw Audio, and Rythmik. They are always a good value for a subwoofer purchase, and typically much better than most traditional brick and mortar store speaker brands because they don't have to pay a middleman or spend as much on marketing. Research on the AVS subwoofer forum, and you'll see that these brands are the most often recommended.

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As I currently own and use a B&W HTM61 as my center channel, I will have to disagree. It is quite excellent for a center. Reproduces dialogue very clearly and is easily driven to loud levels. However, I do agree that you should not mix and match the LCR, as that is arguably the most important part of the system besides the sub. However, you CAN get a different sub than your LCR (or speakercrafts, or whatever.) What would help narrow down Sub suggestions (as others have already suggested, you will get the typical "everything" answer) is a specific price you want for a sub and your expectations.

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Thanks for the advice. This helps. The reason I was going to go with a spearate center channel is that when the Front L and R were installed there was not a cut out for the center channel. I was hoping to just get one that matched closely, but as you say, that might not be best. Thanks for the advice on the Subwoofer as well.
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I suggest the Mordaunt-Short Carnival 5 Center speaker, which is only $250 and is very good.

Do not make the mistake of getting a center speaker with drivers that are 5" or larger; that is too big.

A center speaker should give maximum clarity between 100 and 3 Khz. It should NOT put out any bass, so larger speakers are counter-productive. Smaller is better. 3 to 4 inches is ideal.
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I suggest the Mordaunt-Short Carnival 5 Center speaker, which is only $250 and is very good.

Do not make the mistake of getting a center speaker with drivers that are 5" or larger; that is too big.

A center speaker should give maximum clarity between 100 and 3 Khz. It should NOT put out any bass, so larger speakers are counter-productive. Smaller is better. 3 to 4 inches is ideal.

Why do you keep posting this fallacy?
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I suggest the Mordaunt-Short Carnival 5 Center speaker, which is only $250 and is very good.

Do not make the mistake of getting a center speaker with drivers that are 5" or larger; that is too big.

A center speaker should give maximum clarity between 100 and 3 Khz. It should NOT put out any bass, so larger speakers are counter-productive. Smaller is better. 3 to 4 inches is ideal.

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The only reason I would explore using a center channel different from your fronts is if you plan to also upgrade your fronts in the near future as well. If you don't, then go with the same brand. Ideally, it is best to get the exact same speaker as your fronts. The next best option is to get a center that is properly 'matched' to the fronts.
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Can't say I'd agree with this, and neither would my M&K S150AC center channel (which has 5 1/4" drivers). In fact, my next speaker purchase (whenever that is) will have 6 1/2" drivers across all three front speakers...
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I suggest the Mordaunt-Short Carnival 5 Center speaker, which is only $250 and is very good.
Do not make the mistake of getting a center speaker with drivers that are 5" or larger; that is too big.
A center speaker should give maximum clarity between 100 and 3 Khz. It should NOT put out any bass, so larger speakers are counter-productive. Smaller is better. 3 to 4 inches is ideal.

To meet the THX specs it must go down to 80HZ which kills your idea. I have the Definitive Technology Mythos Eight center which has 5.25" speakers; are you saying that my center is not good for maximum clarity?!?!? The center speaker should be the biggest investment in the system for the mere fact that if you are watching movies all the dialouge comes from the center speaker. If you skimp on the center speaker it will sound weak and will be overshadowed from the towers and sub. A good movie to test out the center is any of the Transformers movie and listen to Optimus Prime Voice.


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I suggest the Mordaunt-Short Carnival 5 Center speaker, which is only $250 and is very good.
Do not make the mistake of getting a center speaker with drivers that are 5" or larger; that is too big.
A center speaker should give maximum clarity between 100 and 3 Khz. It should NOT put out any bass, so larger speakers are counter-productive. Smaller is better. 3 to 4 inches is ideal.
Senior clueless strikes again. You really need to stop trying to give advice because all that I have seen you provide is bad advice.

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Thanks for the advice. This helps. The reason I was going to go with a spearate center channel is that when the Front L and R were installed there was not a cut out for the center channel. I was hoping to just get one that matched closely, but as you say, that might not be best. Thanks for the advice on the Subwoofer as well.
Just make your own cutout for it, it's not that hard. If there is a stud in the way all you have to do is cut a small bit of it out of the way and then build a frame around like you would a door or a window.

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I suggest the Mordaunt-Short Carnival 5 Center speaker, which is only $250 and is very good.
Do not make the mistake of getting a center speaker with drivers that are 5" or larger; that is too big.
A center speaker should give maximum clarity between 100 and 3 Khz. It should NOT put out any bass, so larger speakers are counter-productive. Smaller is better. 3 to 4 inches is ideal.
Senior clueless strikes again. You really need to stop trying to give advice because all that I have seen you provide is bad advice.

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Just make your own cutout for it, it's not that hard. If there is a stud in the way all you have to do is cut a small bit of it out of the way and then build a frame around like you would a door or a window.
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No wider than the opening needed for a typical center speaker, the header could be a couple of 2x4's with some 1/2" plywood in between.

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True, I was just trying to give him an idea of what I was talking about.

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