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Hello. Looking to upgrade and I have narrowed it down to Aperion or EmpTek models. I have read many reviews but am still undecided on which to get. I will take any other suggestions for systems since I am a novice at best when it comes to this. The room is 15' X 12' with 9' ceiling.

I also would like recommendations on a receiver (5.1 or 7.1) that is good enough to handle. I currently own an Onkyo TX NR 509 but I think I would need an upgrade. Please correct me if I am wrong and if there is anything else that I would need.

Aperion: Intimus 5T Tower, 5C Center, 4BP Surround and Bravus Iia 8D sub on sale for $1300.
I would also consider the Verus line if they are really worth the extra money but most likely would exceed $2000. Not a deal breaker but if I can get something just as good for less I may as well go that route.


EmpTek: E55Ti Tower, E55Wi Surround, E56Ci Center and ES1010i sub also on sale for $1740.


I do like both systems and their design but more importantly I would like to know if the sound difference is worth paying more. If anyone can offer any advice I would greatly appreciate it. Many thanks.
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I think you would definitely need a receiver upgrade. Might want to consider a prepro and some nice amps for either brand you end up with.

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Thanks pukemon!! I will take that into consideration and start searching for a better receiver.
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You don't need a pre pro and separate amps for those speakers. A decent receiver will power them just fine, find one with preouts to add a separate amp later on but 99% sure you won't need 200+watt amps. I would use more of your budget toward getting a better subwoofer or two than the two subs you have listed. I would skip both the EMP sub and Aperion sub and go with something like HSU VTF-2 MK4.

I would go with the Aperion since its cheapest of the two and add some extra for a different subwoofer.
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You don't need a pre pro and separate amps for those speakers. A decent receiver will power them just fine, find one with preouts to add a separate amp later on but 99% sure you won't need 200+watt amps. I would use more of your budget toward getting a better subwoofer or two than the two subs you have listed. I would skip both the EMP sub and Aperion sub and go with something like HSU VTF-2 MK4.
I would go with the Aperion since its cheapest of the two and add some extra for a different subwoofer.

Something like the 709 should be adequate enough for those speakers. Not to mention the pre-outs, should the OP decide to get an outboard amp later on.

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Thank you both gtpsuper24 and darkpoet25 for your opinions!!! I may really consider going the Aperion route now with the 709 and a different sub.
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Cannot comment on Aperion, but I own the Emptek speakers and they look and sound great!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
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Thanks Elihawk! Glad you are enjoying your system. May I ask you what kind of receiver you are using?
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You don't want my avr...older Sherwood with no hdmi!
Will be looking for a new avr soon...thinking about a denon!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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Okay thank you again!!
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You don't want my avr...older Sherwood with no hdmi!
Will be looking for a new avr soon...thinking about a denon!

Other than wanting newer updated options, I assume that the Sherwood has no problems powering the EMPs to high out levels?

I think the OP should check out receivers that have the options he would want (ie. #of channels, # of hdmi, audyssey, ect not power) You would be really surprised at the levels a receiver can push some speaker that are 8ohm with no crazy impedance dips.
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Will do gtpsuper24.
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I do like both systems and their design but more importantly I would like to know if the sound difference is worth paying more. If anyone can offer any advice I would greatly appreciate it. Many thanks.

Since they both have a return policy - if you can not make up your mind, then order a pair of
bookshelf speakers from the same series of both companies. Check out the sound signature
and find out which one you like best. Then set up the system that you like best, I would still
prefer a subwoofer from the sub experts > HSU, Outlaw, SVS or Epik.

Marantz, Denon, Yamaha and Pioneer Elite > make some nice receivers. Good Luck!

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Thanks zieglj01!! Appreciate your answers to my questions. Looking forward to checking out those brands.
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Sorry, the Sherwood is rated at 75 watts per channel and has never failed to produce sufficient volume...so yes, it has plenty of power to drive the EMPs! Not reference levels or anything, but more than enough volume for my 14 x 16 foot room plus some. This model has been discontinued, so a mute point anyway!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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The emp's are rated 6 ohms I believe. Threw out the receiver recommendation to make sure he gets a receiver that will do 6 ohms without problems.

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And I believe they were 88db speakers for the towers. Nothing heavy duty but between that and 6 ohms the op should look into something a little heavier duty, not necessarily wattage.

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That is good to know Elihawk, thanks!

Some butter and jelly for pukemon for his input! Thanks.
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You don't need a pre pro and separate amps for those speakers. A decent receiver will power them just fine, find one with preouts to add a separate amp later on but 99% sure you won't need 200+watt amps. I would use more of your budget toward getting a better subwoofer or two than the two subs you have listed. I would skip both the EMP sub and Aperion sub and go with something like HSU VTF-2 MK4.

This. I'm running that same EMP setup (minus the EMP sub) and I love it. I'm powering the system with a Yamaha RX-A710 (in 8 ohm mode) and it's plently loud for my 25x16x18 open room. Music can be heard throughout the house, even when I run 6 outdoor speakers simultaneously on zone 2 (although I really need to get a separate amp to run these speakers).
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