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I want your advice

I have a square room 17'x16, The distance between the screen and place to sit is 11.5 ,,, so I am too close from rear wall.


and I have 1 pair of bookshelf (Paradigm Studio 20)
and 1 pair of bipolar speaker ( Paradigm Studio adp-470)


Can I put bookshelf at surround and the bipolar at surround back!



Edit: after searching I found that ADP-470 is a dipole speaker
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Why are you too close to the rear wall? If you have 3 to 6 feet behind the seating to the rear wall you should be fine. When ppl have 5.1 and have to have the speakers on the rear wall even tho their seating is up against the rear wall then it is recommended to use bipoles. But for your situation I would use the bipoles for the side surrounds and the direct radiating bookshelves for the rears.

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I want your advice
I have a square room 17'x16, The distance between the screen and place to sit is 11.5 ,,, so I am too close from rear wall.
and I have 1 pair of bookshelf (Paradigm Studio 20)
and 1 pair of bipolar speaker ( Paradigm Studio adp-470)
Can I put bookshelf at surround and the bipolar at surround back!

That's what I would do. The bipolar's will produce a more diffuse sound, which is better for rears.
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^^^ I thought side surrounds were supposed to be more diffuse, but rears were supposed to be direct radiating? Just asking the question, I know some ppl like dipoles for all 4 surrounds, some like bipoles, and some like direct radiating. THX recommends dipole side surrounds and direct firing rear surrounds.

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THX recommends dipole side surrounds and direct firing rear surrounds.

I think that is the better way to go but switch them around to see what you like best.

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I tested both method i didn't like the adp-470 as surround ... I cant hair it clearly

now I but the srudio 20 at sorrund and 470 at rear ... now I can hair sorund effect clearly

I will attach a picture explain the distacne between my surround and surround back and my sofa.

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after searching I found that ADP-470 is dipole speaker not bipolare
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choose a good place for your bipolar and bookshelf,you can put your bipolar on your bookshelf and set the sound what you want,but you should deal with the space between other stuff,go ahead,try some times you will find the best way!
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^^^ I thought side surrounds were supposed to be more diffuse, but rears were supposed to be direct radiating? Just asking the question, I know some ppl like dipoles for all 4 surrounds, some like bipoles, and some like direct radiating. THX recommends dipole side surrounds and direct firing rear surrounds.

My experience is the main surrounds tend to have more direct sound, while rear surrounds (front width and heights also) tend to have more diffuse sounds. Bipole and dipole are better with diffuse sounds. I think bipole are better for rears than dipole and dipole are better for main surrounds, but direct radiating are the best for main surrounds. Just my own opinion.
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Ok... yeah we all like something different and even the companies like Dolby, DTS, and THX don't agree on surround speaker configuration. I have had direct radiating LCRs for all surrounds in the past and now I have BIC Acoustech PL-66s for the 4 surround channels, which have an angled cabinet (honestly I'm not sure what type of speaker they are considered).

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Dipoles probably should be used for the main surrounds with the monopoles for rear surrounds. You are pretty close to the back wall; any way of moving your whole setup forward? Look at this excellent guide on dipole/bipole/monopole surround placement: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=170720
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