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I own the Andrew Jones series speakers.... I really like them, but, I've never heard any actual "high end" speakers. Would I really benefit jumping up to something in the 300-500 dollar range? I was thinking of Polk rti a1's and the c4 center, or energy rc10 and cc10, or anything in that bracket. All suggestions and advice are appreciated! Budget is 500-700 hundred for the front 3, my receiver is a Denon avr391, dont really want to upgrade if I dont have to.
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Which models of the Jones Pioneer speakers did you get?

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I have 3 c21's and pair of bs21's..... are the bs41's really that much better than what I have?
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I have 3 c21's and pair of bs21's..... are the bs41's really that much better than what I have?

What subwoofer do you own?

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I have 3 c21's and pair of bs21's..... are the bs41's really that much better than what I have?

What subwoofer do you own?

Good question since a sub might help him be happier with what he's already got...

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I own a Denon sub from htib set up I use to have, it's a 8 inch 100 wat powered sub, not a very good one either. The sub really is the last thing on the list, I'm more about clarity, dynamics, crystal clear sound and detail. I will eventually get the bic f12 probably.
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Also, I really don't plan on getting an amp to go with this set up, I will be getting a new receiver to put in a different room, so I could put the new one with my man cave set up to replace the Denon avr391. I have the space for floorstanders as well, I just don't want to get into having to buy an amp and run new wires and all that, so I'm stuck with whatever my receiver can put out.
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Personally I'd say save your money and aim a bit higher, both for the speakers and sub. Some speakers that would be a significant step up IMHO would be the Ascend 340SEs for not too much higher than your speaker budget, or maybe 170SEs for your current budget (and both are relatively efficient). You can find better subs on sale if you patiently look around for a similar cost to the F12 (like the Klipsch RW12D that regularly goes on sale for 250 shipped) or buy used, but I'd aim at saving some money for a 500-600 range sub...

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I'll have to check out the Ascends, I'm pretty new to the hi-fi world, so I'm a little lost on what to spend my money on, lol.
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I'll have to check out the Ascends, I'm pretty new to the hi-fi world, so I'm a little lost on what to spend my money on, lol.

I'm a recent updater to my setup if that helps. I really like my Ascends....disclaimer, I do not have the 340SEs, I have the Sierra-1s (with nrt upgrade) L/C/R and the HTM200SEs L/C/R and a pair of the 170SEs. The 340SEs get great reviews, I was just staying smaller at first (the Sierra-1s came after the HTM200SEs as my room is on the larger side for the 200s). It's an internet direct brand, but do offer a 30 day trial if you're willing to risk shipping expense. Good people to deal with, David and Dina will take care of you!

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I agree with the others. Save your cash until you can make a significant leap up in quality. The Pioneers are great budget speakers. However, investing in a good subwoofer is always a wise purchase because you can use it with whatever fronts you choose later as well as your current setup.

Ascend Acoustics is a great ID brand. I own a pair of the CBM-170SEs as well as the Sierra-1s (non-NrT). I highly recommend them but there are many other brands out there worth auditioning when you're ready,

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I agree with the others. Save your cash until you can make a significant leap up in quality. The Pioneers are great budget speakers. However, investing in a good subwoofer is always a wise purchase because you can use it with whatever fronts you choose later as well as your current setup.

Ascend Acoustics is a great ID brand. I own a pair of the CBM-170SEs as well as the Sierra-1s (non-NrT). I highly recommend them but there are many other brands out there worth auditioning when you're ready,

FWIW I just did the nrt upgrade myself on the L/R, the center I bought already upgraded (bought used). Not a huge difference, but I couldn't exactly a/b them either. I did a/b the pre-nrt Sierra-1s and the 170SEs, though. Sierras are worth the money although the 170SEs I think are very good value and sound great.

Oh, and totally agree there's lots of good stuff out there. If you don't mind the efficiency, the SVSound MBS02s at 400 the pair aren't too bad (I couldn't resist) but I like the Ascends better. They were actually in my comparison (I have an a/b/c 2 channel switch).

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I love my Sierra-1s. They're in a music only setup right now. I'm kind of curious to see what Dave has up his sleeve for the new "upgrade" for the Sierras.

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The SHO-10 speakers from Chase Home Theater for $395 did very well in a comparison with more expensive speakers recently. For home theater use they are hard to beat for the price.

https://www.chasehometheater.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=28&Itemid=53&TreeId=1&redirected=1&Itemid=102

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1422525/speaker-shootout-ed-cinema-12s-jtr-triple-8s-cht-sho-10s-bill-fitzmaurice-dr-250s/0_100
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