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post #1 of 10 Old 09-06-2012, 09:43 AM - Thread Starter
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I've been using Bose (non Amp) system for over 10 years now and I've been getting itchy fingers lately. I think it's time....

I have a Denon 1609 Receiver which serves my needs very nicely (2 zone) etc. Unfortunately it's a bit underpowered. I was thinking about getting 6ohm speakers to raise the power of the Amp, but those are hard to find (Jamo sales have been scarce lately)

So I'm thinking about Polk Audio Monitor 50s (currently on sale for $80 a pop). I already have the Bookshelf Polks (which I think are great). Those would be surround sound.

What's the general feeling about Monitor 50s. I mostly watch tv/movies and music. My receiver only puts out like 80watts so I think getting Monitor 60s/70s would be an overkill.

Also any other competitors in the similar price range???

As for Subwoofer, I've been thinking about PSW505 12" Polk but more I research it the more I find that Polk isn't all that great when it comes to subs.

Would Bic 12" http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M
or Velodyne Impact 12 be a better option ?They all seem to be priced the same?

PS. My living room is pretty small 13'x 17' or so and couch is about 10 feet away from TV/speakers

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6 ohm speakers are a little harder to drive than 8 ohm speakers. You're receiver will not get louder because you use 6 ohm speakers.

You should be more concerned with the sensitivity db rating. The Monitor 50 is 89db and the Monitor 60 is 90db. You probably wont notice a difference there. Bose doesn't publish its specs so who knows how they are rated. But I can guarantee you either the Mon50 or Mon60 with a powered sub will sound much better than a Bose satellite system if that's what you have. The much larger speakers will do a better job of filling your room with no shortcomings in the mid-bass region.

When you add a powered sub it takes a load off your receiver to produce the lower frequencies so your receiver will actually have an easier time with the mids and highs. That's where you'll really see a benefit.

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Thx, yea I figured just about any decent Tweeter/midrange set up (even bookshelves) will be better than Bose.

Any recommendations on Subs?

I read that Klipsch Reference RW-12d might be the best choice in 200-300 price range. But wondering if Bic or Velodyne are as good.....and if Polk PSW505 is worth it at 200
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Anyone else? :/
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I think almost EVERYONE on this forum will agree...the Polk M50s with a decent sub will much better than Bose (not sure which Bose system you are using) and likely be cheaper!

Other systems in that introductory price range:
-Infinity Primus p163 (70-80 dollars per speaker).
-Def Tech SM 350/450 (new Egg has had these for around $200/pr)

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
Set up #3: JBL130, JBL120C and Klipsch synergy sub
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I agree. Either the Polk Monitor50 or 60 would be a nice upgrade for you. If you can swing it, the Monitor60s are $129 each at Newegg right now.

Most people on the AVS subwoofer forum seem to agree that the RW-12d is one of (if not the) best sub buys for $300. If you need to go cheaper, the PSW505 is on sale at Newegg for the moment at $200 (promo code EMCNAND65). At that price point, more people seem to recommend it over the BIC F12.

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Yep, that's what my research points to (subwoofer wise).

I'm going to hold off until Black friday, hope Polks and Klipshe sub go on sale etc (I'm not in hurry)

Any other opinions/recommendations would be great.
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I'm going to hold off until Black friday, hope Polks and Klipshe sub go on sale etc (I'm not in hurry)
Any other opinions/recommendations would be great.

Probably no reason to hold off on that Klipsch for a better deal. It's doubtful it will go lower. I seem to remember the PSW505 going down to around $180 last year. If you do hold off until Black Friday, be sure to check the AVS subwoofer forum in case there is better deal on a different sub for your money at that time.

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6 ohm speakers are a little harder to drive than 8 ohm speakers. You're receiver will not get louder because you use 6 ohm speakers.
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Forgot to ask about this

For some reason my Denon seems to have a higher watt rating for 6ohm speakers. That's why I wanted to go with Jamo system (originally)

Seems like there is good 45watts to be gained from going with 6ohm speakers. But again, Only maker I found is Jamo. Most polks etc are all 8ohm

Specs:
110 Watt - 6 Ohm - at 1 kHz - THD 0.7% - 1 channel(s) ( center ), 110 Watt - 6 Ohm - at 1 kHz - THD 0.7% - 2 channel(s) ( front ), 110 Watt - 6 Ohm - at 1 kHz - THD 0.7% - 2 channel(s) ( surround ), 110 Watt - 6 Ohm - at 1 kHz - THD 0.7% - 2 channel(s) ( surround back ), 75 Watt - 8 Ohm - 20 - 20000 Hz - THD 0.08% - 1 channel(s) ( center ), 75 Watt - 8 Ohm - 20 - 20000 Hz - THD 0.08% - 2 channel(s) ( front ), 75 Watt - 8 Ohm - 20 - 20000 Hz - THD 0.08% - 2 channel(s) ( surround ), 75 Watt - 8 Ohm - 20 - 20000 Hz - THD 0.08% - 2 channel(s) ( surround back )
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Decided to pull the trigger on CS1 Center and for now I will use Monitor 30s I currently have as fronts. Eventually I will get Monitor 50s and put 30s in the back.

I also decide to go with Polk PSW505 to match the rest of the set up. Seems like Subs in $200 region are all close enough in performance. BIC didn't seem to get good reviews for music listening.
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