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Hope i am posting correctly....

Here's my situation, a 14x14 living room, in appartment building with rather thin wall's !!!

I would love to have a 5.1 hometheater, but a sub is out of the question, because of neighbors.

A was thinking Polk Audio TL-250 and an avr in the likes of a DENON AVR-1613 or anything similar,

i would like the receiver to have the ability to have "NIGHT" listening mode, or an audio passtrue function, just to listen

at speakers from TV, without having to jump thorough loop's

Don't need to be very loud, but decent quality specially mid frequencies, since i wont have a sub.

Total budget, i could squeeze roughly $700-750

Will await replies thanks to all...
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If you are not going to go with a sub, you should try to find some full range bookshelf or tower speakers for your front stage. 14 x 14 is a smallish room, so....
Assuming you can get a AVR for around 200 dollars, that would leave 500 for speakers.
Maybe a pair of Polk M40s and matching center; or maybe the Infinity Primus p163 and center; or many other suggestions...

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I agree, you definitely want speakers that can play down to 80hz as a minimum, even if you wont add a sub. Tiny satellites that roll off at 150hz are going to sound hollow and unbalanced with no weight to voices.

Try something like 3 of these up front

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSHS225MDNT/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-HS225-2-way-LCR-Speaker-Black/1.html

You can get away with tiny satellites for surround, but you do not want these up front

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSCS23GB/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-CS23-2-Way-3-1/2-in-Bookshelf-Speaker-Each-Black/1.html#!specifications

That leaves you just enough room for a Denon 1612

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR1612/DENON-AVR-1612-5.1-Channel-A/V-Home-Theater-Receiver/1.html
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TL-250 without a sub is going to sound bad because it only has a 3.25" driver. That's not a whole lot better than the TV speakers.

I agree with the suggestion above, get some good bookshelf or tower speakers if you have no plans to use a sub.

You can definitely do that with the Polk Monitor series. Maybe Monitor 60's up front, CS2 center and Monitor 30's or 40's for surrounds. That can easily be done under $700. Check newegg.com for specials.


If looking for bookshelf speakers the Infinity primus P163 would be a good suggestion too.

Also a good deal right now are the Energy RC-10 speakers with RC LCR center.
$219/pr for the RC-10s and $199 for the center speaker. You can get two pair of RC-10 and the center for a 5.0 setup under $700.
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/542469405
http://www.meijer.com/s/energy-speaker-systems-rc-lcr-center-speaker/_/R-224354

The RC LCR is only on sale until 9/14. That price is about as low as you'll ever get.

Another option is the Cambridge Audio s30 bookshelf speakers, a little smaller than the RC-10s. Still have decent bass though.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_779S30N/Cambridge-Audio-S30-Noir.html?tp=186
s50 Center
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_779S50B/Cambridge-Audio-S50-Black.html?search=Cambridge+Audio+VENDORID779&searchdisplay=Cambridge+Audio&tp=189

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The Polk M50s right now are $80.00 per speaker! I listed the M40s, simple because the OP has a smallish room...
Another good option would be a pair of Def Tech SM 350, just over 200 dollars per pair right now from New Egg! Pretty good bass from those...

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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Why no sub? Just don't turn it up. It will add much more to the overall sound then spending the corresponding amount on "full" range speakers in your price range.
This- http://www.nhthifi.com/bookshelf-speakers-subwoofer-Super-Surround-5-1?sc=12&category=3830
will sound a lot better than the equivalent amount spent on bookshelf speakers and have greater range.

It's a little over your budget but you could go with 3.1 and save $200 to apply to the AVR.

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Another option is the Cambridge Audio s30 bookshelf speakers, a little smaller than the RC-10s. Still have decent bass though.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_779S30N/Cambridge-Audio-S30-Noir.html?tp=186
s50 Center
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_779S50B/Cambridge-Audio-S50-Black.html?search=Cambridge+Audio+VENDORID779&searchdisplay=Cambridge+Audio&tp=189

The Cambridge is a little beast, and will work good in your apartment/enviorment. There are some
bigger speakers that can not match the S30, for the low/controlled bass >> the bass is nice, and is
not boomy or mushy - I can play them in a 12 x 20 room.

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Like i said, any amount of decent bass, and i will get complaints,

i am looking at anything with decent mid's no more.

Perhaps, i can look into a small sub, in order to get
the mid's, but would prefer it came from small speakers...

Will continue to look into the advice you guy's give me.

unfortunately , here in Canada, there's not to many decent stores
to go and listen to various setup's, also choices are very limited compared
to the USA.

By the way how's my English, for a Frenchmen ?
will let you people know when i decide, and how it turns out.

Yours truly Danny.
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Like i said, any amount of decent bass, and i will get complaints,
i am looking at anything with decent mid's no more.
Perhaps, i can look into a small sub, in order to get
the mid's, but would prefer it came from small speakers...
Will continue to look into the advice you guy's give me.
unfortunately , here in Canada, there's not to many decent stores
to go and listen to various setup's, also choices are very limited compared
to the USA.
By the way how's my English, for a Frenchmen ?
will let you people know when i decide, and how it turns out.
Yours truly Danny.

A speaker that has no bass - can sound thin, weak and some-what bright.

Your English is good >> The mids (midrange), comes from the speakers - not from the
subwoofer. To get any type of decent sound from a speaker - it needs to do some bass.
Even if you buy a subwoofer, it is better to have a speaker that plays to around 80hz.

You may be a candidate for headphones.

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Subwoofer > Mordaunt Short Aviano 7
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