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That's interesting, I hadn't thought about mounting them. Would the corners be too wide? I think that wall is about 15' wide, and we sit about 12' away.
Aim for 45-60 degrees between the L and R from the seating position center chair.

In my opinion, wider always sounds nicer, where the dialogue of movies and the background music are more separated, it sounds more immersive.
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Earlier in this thread, someone said these worked out perfectly.

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Any recommended wall/corner mount systems for the A2's? I'm guessing there's no keyhole, so perhaps a shelf type system...
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Any recommended wall/corner mount systems for the A2's? I'm guessing there's no keyhole, so perhaps a shelf type system...
This is what I purchased for mine based on another poster's recommendation.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I haven't been able to mount them yet as I am waiting on my Arx-5's to arrive.

UPDATE: I mounted my Arx3's yesterday. I had to rotate one of the mounts as the other wall didn't have a stud to mount to. If anyone decides to purchase these mounts I would recommend not using the screws provided and replace them with 3/8 " lag screws (either 3" or 3 1/2" length).

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This is what I purchased for mine based on another poster's recommendation.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I haven't been able to mount them yet as I am waiting on my Arx-5's to arrive.
I have these for my surround sound speakers and they work great, but a word of caution. If you plan on tilting your speakers downward you better make sure they are clamped as tight as you can possibly get them because I thought I had mine really tight, but my speakers slipped out in the middle of the night and came crashing down causing quite a fright and damaged both speakers.

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Looks like my A3rx-c have been shipped.
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Got my new A5rx-c in this past weekend. Very happy with them, best audio purchase in the last 20 years. For a small to mid sized room, hard to beat.
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Got the A3rx-c set up today. Very well made for the price point. Their sound out of the box is...different. They may need significant break in, something reviewers and Jon Lane himself have said. At first listen, they made my E5Ti sound somewhat harsh by comparison, which isn't normally how I'd describe them. And there is very little bass to the Chanes, which is definitely not how most people describe these splitgap woofers. I'm letting them run for a while before I play with them more.

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I'm considering the A3rx-c.

For any owners of it here, how is the bass performance for music without a subwoofer? Can I get by without one?
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Are these known for being quiet? They are rated at a higher sensitivity than my EMPs, but they are quieter at the same volume. This surprises me.

On that note, I'm getting more bass output now. Jon isn't kidding when he says these splitgap woofers need break in.

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I'm considering the A3rx-c.

For any owners of it here, how is the bass performance for music without a subwoofer? Can I get by without one?
I would say this. If you are used to having a sub, you will notice the bass difference right away. They've got some bass, but not comparable to a dedicated sub. I've got a PSA-XV15, and I notice the difference right away.
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Are these known for being quiet? They are rated at a higher sensitivity than my EMPs, but they are quieter at the same volume. This surprises me.
I went from a Pioneer SC-1522-K to a Denon X4000. I noticed that the XT32 has a better detailed calibration, but I also noticed that I had to use more volume to make them sound as loud as the Pio used to. However, XT32 is much much clearer and neutral. It doesn't sound as loud as the Pio, but it is!
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I also got an X4000. But, I have them both hooked up at the same time using Speakers B. And for now I'm testing them both raw with no calibration.
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Here are pics of the mounted speakers.
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Are these known for being quiet? They are rated at a higher sensitivity than my EMPs, but they are quieter at the same volume. This surprises me.

On that note, I'm getting more bass output now. Jon isn't kidding when he says these splitgap woofers need break in.
The fact they are a true 8 ohm speaker will make them sound attenuated with the volume knob in the same position compared to a 6 ohm speaker.
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Here are pics of the mounted speakers.
Thanks for sharing the pics. I'll be looking for smaller speaker for surround purposes.
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The fact they are a true 8 ohm speaker will make them sound attenuated with the volume knob in the same position compared to a 6 ohm speaker.
That makes sense, and it's going to make it harder to compare them to my EMPs.

The Chanes are coming alive a bit more. The bass is now good, and very smooth. However it's taking some time for me to get used to the laid back nature of the sound. They are definitely not jumping out and demanding my attention. I'm looping the Transformers soundtrack while at work
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Got the A3rx-c set up today. Very well made for the price point. Their sound out of the box is...different. They may need significant break in, something reviewers and Jon Lane himself have said. At first listen, they made my E5Ti sound somewhat harsh by comparison, which isn't normally how I'd describe them. And there is very little bass to the Chanes, which is definitely not how most people describe these splitgap woofers. I'm letting them run for a while before I play with them more.
Exciting day! I remember wanting those originally. But, I did not want to wait.... Then the A2's "went on the drop" and I picked them up. 3 A2's and stands for under $680.

I have had them for a few months now and I like them more every time I listen to them! They did require significant break in time and I set all three to "large" across the front with the sub turned off for break in (something I was not used too). During that time, I found myself playing with them more and for the most part I have left them alone and rarely use the sub anymore unless I am watching movies.

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Exciting day! I remember wanting those originally. But, I did not want to wait.... Then the A2's "went on the drop" and I picked them up. 3 A2's and stands for under $680.

I have had them for a few months now and I like them more every time I listen to them! They did require significant break in time and I set all three to "large" across the front with the sub turned off for break in (something I was not used too). During that time, I found myself playing with them more and for the most part I have left them alone and rarely use the sub anymore unless I am watching movies.

Congrats!
I just received my (3) A2's and hooked them up the other day. Out of curiosity, what stands did you go with?
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That is a great deal. I wouldn't have a need for a third A2, plus I'm often moving around a fair bit in this room and will appreciate the slightly better vertical dispersion of the TMM configuration over a MTM if I'm working out near the speakers. The stands for the A3's are well made and very sturdy.

They are growing on me more each day, but they still sound a bit like they're holding something back. This is also my first speaker that doesn't use a dome tweeter, so part of the process is my ears acclimating.
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I'm considering the A3rx-c.

For any owners of it here, how is the bass performance for music without a subwoofer? Can I get by without one?
It would depend on how you plan to use them. So many variables.

I would say yes in a moderate to small sized room. But, like I said, too many variables. Music type, equipment, room size, listening position, flooring material, furniture, etc... Also, (as mentioned in post 821), if you are used to a sub, probably not.

I have 3 A2's and 2 A1's in a moderate sized, multi-use room and they are plenty for us. I have had numerous positive comments on how our system sounds. Some people like ear bleeding wall shaking bass. We don't....


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It would depend on how you plan to use them. So many variables.

I would say yes in a moderate to small sized room. But, like I said, too many variables. Music type, equipment, room size, listening position, flooring material, furniture, etc... Also, (as mentioned in post 821), if you are used to a sub, probably not.

I have 3 A2's and 2 A1's in a moderate sized, multi-use room and they are plenty for us. I have had numerous positive comments on how our system sounds. Some people like ear bleeding wall shaking bass. We don't....

The tv in the mirror and the actual TV show a different picture. DEMONS.
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I just received my (3) A2's and hooked them up the other day. Out of curiosity, what stands did you go with?
I went with some "Sanus" stands with the Cherry center to match our furniture and console. I can research the model # for you if you're really interested... Our situation is a little unique though and I had to heavily modify them for our use because of lots of hard surfaces to include Terrazzo flooring, Leather furniture and lots of hard angled surfaces. It has been a challenge to get them to sound right (especially in regards to the floors). For the stands, I replaced all the screws with heavier and longer hardware, drilled them out to accept much larger wire and used lots of thick felt.

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They are growing on me more each day, but they still sound a bit like they're holding something back. This is also my first speaker that doesn't use a dome tweeter, so part of the process is my ears acclimating.
I know what you mean! The way you described them as being "quiet" is what got me.... I thought the exact same thing! I think part of it, is that they require more "oomph" to get them going. Also, I think I am "hearing more" (if that makes any sense?). Still trying to figure that out....

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The tv in the mirror and the actual TV show a different picture. DEMONS.
Never noticed that! That is nuts! What in the heck would cause that?

EDIT: Figured it out.... It is a small "Panoramic" Picture. So, it is many frames stitched together at slightly different times (milliseconds). Crazy stuff.... Good eye!

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Apologies if this was asked earlier in the thread. I just got an A2 to serve as my center channel. Is there an advantage or disadvantage of vertical vs. horizontal alingment if you use the A2 for that purpose?
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Apologies if this was asked earlier in the thread. I just got an A2 to serve as my center channel. Is there an advantage or disadvantage of vertical vs. horizontal alingment if you use the A2 for that purpose?
One is taller than the other!
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One is taller than the other!
lol, I actually have more room vertically than horizontally. Was not quite prepared for how big this speaker was gonna be (esp. compared to my old crappy center)! I measured it out for the space, but my mental picture just checked off that the perimeter measurements would fit on top of my entertainment center, without filling in the space between the lines and digesting the full mass of this thing.
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Apologies if this was asked earlier in the thread. I just got an A2 to serve as my center channel. Is there an advantage or disadvantage of vertical vs. horizontal alingment if you use the A2 for that purpose?
If the speaker is vertical you will experience more even horizontal dispersion (those seated next to you will have an experience nearly identical to your own, or if you move your head back and forth you won't hear timbre shifts). Of course, the vertical orientation is impractical for many as it may block the screen and/or be close enough to the floor to cause frequency response problems. I suspect most people who run them vertically are placing them behind an acoustically transparent projection screen.

Whichever orientation you use, the tweeter should always be vertical. The outside set of screws on the tweeter faceplate can be removed and the assembly rotated to keep the tweeter vertical no matter the orientation of the speaker box.

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Vertical is best. It will not have lobing issues to the left and right of the speaker and will show a more even response across the room.
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The way you described them as being "quiet" is what got me.... I thought the exact same thing! I think part of it, is that they require more "oomph" to get them going. Also, I think I am "hearing more" (if that makes any sense?). Still trying to figure that out....
It makes perfect sense, Bertram31. Less is indeed more because it reveals what's on the recording more than what's being added to it. You can play 'em louder too.

With the exception of the A5rx-c, these models are also true 8 ohm systems. They don't need more oomph but they may need more gain, as a commenter pointed out up-thread a little. The higher impedance load is easier to drive and it will sink less current than a lower impedance load at any given volume setting, all else being equal.

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