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Thank you for the link. They look rather large. I don't think my wife will go for that. I'm still looking for surround and surround back speakers. I might go with in-walls, but I'm not sure.
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Thank you for the link. They look rather large. I don't think my wife will go for that. I'm still looking for surround and surround back speakers. I might go with in-walls, but I'm not sure.
If you want compact speakers for wall-mounting, look into the NHT SuperZeros and Ascend HTM-200. Both are sealed designs and very accurate in the mids and highs. Just be sure to have a good sub to fill in the lower frequencies.
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If you want compact speakers for wall-mounting, look into the NHT SuperZeros and Ascend HTM-200. Both are sealed designs and very accurate in the mids and highs. Just be sure to have a good sub to fill in the lower frequencies.
Thanks. I'll look into those. I've got a PSA-XV15 for bass purposes.
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Well, after some debate (and the enclosure of my Klipsch KFL-10s finally coming unglued) I picked up a set of A3rx-c's off of Massdrop. So far I've got about 10 hours of time on them after a few movies and a ton of music, and my initial impressions are that (1) those tweeters are amazing, and (2) the speakers are slowly warming up. Of course, I'm not sure my neighbors are quite as appreciative.
They keep getting sweeter right up to the 100 hour mark.
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I have around 35-40 hours on the A5s now. Exceptional speakers. I have very sensitive hearing to shrill sounds and distortion. I feel like the Chanes were made just for me Sold my Focal 826v towers for them. Couldn't be happier. We move into our new home on June 23rd, cannot wait to finish breaking them in for the theater. Can't believe the Chanes don't get more praise around here. I picked them after demo'ing Monitor Audio, Klipsch, Focal, Martin Logan, B&W, Paradigm, etc. To my ears there was no competition except for maybe the Martin Logan Motion 40, really liked those. I'll be pairing the Arx5 with a Chane center channel, 4x HTD directional in ceilings, and a Denon X4000.
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Anyone have experiences using the A5rx's with Yamaha Integrated Amps?

I'm on the fence between these 2 after looking at AVR's and Stereo Amps.. with WAF preventing me from going with a bigger receiver style unit. Also came down to these 2 since these have a Sub out that I can use for my RW12D's

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The 701's are 100W+100W (0.019% THD)
The 501's are 85W+85W (0.019% THD)

The cost difference is $200.. my "supposed" budget was $500. Would there be much difference? The A5's are pretty efficient yeah? I'd like to get the 501 to save some money but if it's worth it.. it's worth it. Any advice?
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Anyone have experiences using the A5rx's with Yamaha Integrated Amps?

I'm on the fence between these 2 after looking at AVR's and Stereo Amps.. with WAF preventing me from going with a bigger receiver style unit. Also came down to these 2 since these have a Sub out that I can use for my RW12D's

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The 701's are 100W+100W (0.019% THD)
The 501's are 85W+85W (0.019% THD)

The cost difference is $200.. my "supposed" budget was $500. Would there be much difference? The A5's are pretty efficient yeah? I'd like to get the 501 to save some money but if it's worth it.. it's worth it. Any advice?
Those are about exactly the same size as the average AVR, cost about the same, come with a lot less connections and features, and are about 500 times uglier. I don't see any WAF problems here.
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Those are about exactly the same size as the average AVR, cost about the same, come with a lot less connections and features, and are about 500 times uglier. I don't see any WAF problems here.
Yep! they got shot down after we looked at them on youtube. They appeared to be a smaller footprint based on the standalone pictures.

Wifey didn't mind the Marantz NR1605 we ran into.. but I'm iffy on them power wise.. 50wpc?
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Yep! they got shot down after we looked at them on youtube. They appeared to be a smaller footprint based on the standalone pictures.

Wifey didn't mind the Marantz NR1605 we ran into.. but I'm iffy on them power wise.. 50wpc?
You can get alot more AVR for the money. Get some piece of furniture to conceal the unit. You are just going to end up kicking yourself for getting something small and pretty just because the wifey didn't like the other ones that were literally only a few inches taller.

I assume you are going to run the A5's in full range, if so, 50w may be cutting it a bit close in a medium size room. 50w would be plenty if you crossed them at 80hz for movies.

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I am feeding my A5s with 250W from a pro-amp. Actually, I run all of my Arx speakers from 2 4 chann pro-amps. I love the set-up.
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Yep! they got shot down after we looked at them on youtube. They appeared to be a smaller footprint based on the standalone pictures.

Wifey didn't mind the Marantz NR1605 we ran into.. but I'm iffy on them power wise.. 50wpc?
Slim / Small AVR have a small power supply, which pretty much will have less WPC. You can't really have both worlds unless you go with slim AVR and external amps.
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Slim / Small AVR have a small power supply, which pretty much will have less WPC. You can't really have both worlds unless you go with slim AVR and external amps.
Unfortunately a lot of full-sized AVRs commonly have ridiculously inflated WPC numbers---and there is no industry watchdog agency to keep the manufacturers honest. Marantz, NAD and Harman Kardon are among the very few mid-fi AVRs known to have consistently *honest* power numbers. Your average entry-level $200-400 big bulky AVR with a gazillion bells and whistles and bright LED lights at Best Buy may claim to have 100-150 wpc but when tested actually have as little as 40-50wpc.
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Unfortunately a lot of full-sized AVRs commonly have ridiculously inflated WPC numbers---and there is no industry watchdog agency to keep the manufacturers honest. Marantz, NAD and Harman Kardon are among the very few mid-fi AVRs known to have consistently *honest* power numbers. Your average entry-level $200-400 big bulky AVR with a gazillion bells and whistles and bright LED lights at Best Buy may claim to have 100-150 wpc but when tested actually have as little as 40-50wpc.
I agree.
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So you get high efficiency speakers where 50 watts will drive them to 105db
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Gathering some impressions on the A3rx-c's with their bases mass loaded with about 22lbs of sand each. Next time, I'll use lead shot though as the juncture between the port and the top of the sealed bottom enclosure isn't perfectly sealed. No biggie though.

So far, it's deftly opened up the midrange and widened the soundstage by a smidge. Getting better separation and that definition holds to higher volume levels as well.

It was worth the $6 at homeless depot for the sand.
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I'm really liking the mass loading of the enclosures. It's helping the A3rx-c even further bridge the gap between them and the A5's.

Now I just need to drive down there and pick up my A5rx-c's.

Still, I'm impressed by the clarity and complete lack of grain or harshness with the rx-c series' crossover and tweeter enhancements. Even at stupid volume levels, they hold together and remain coherent.

The A3rx-c is doing a damn fine impression of a quality stand monitor. It's just that coherent and sweet sound with everything you throw at it, regardless of genre.

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Gathering some impressions on the A3rx-c's with their bases mass loaded with about 22lbs of sand each. Next time, I'll use lead shot though as the juncture between the port and the top of the sealed bottom enclosure isn't perfectly sealed. No biggie though.

So far, it's deftly opened up the midrange and widened the soundstage by a smidge. Getting better separation and that definition holds to higher volume levels as well.

It was worth the $6 at homeless depot for the sand.
Pics? I haven't been around long enough to even know what you're talking about?

Are you somehow putting sand on top/around the base of the speaker? Is this to increase the rigidity/decrease movement etc.. just wondering. thanks!
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Are you somehow putting sand on top/around the base of the speaker? Is this to increase the rigidity/decrease movement etc.. just wondering. thanks!
The bottom few inches of the A3rx-c's cabinet can be filled from under the bolt-on base to increase mass. Get in touch with Chane by email and we can detail this for you.
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Pics? I haven't been around long enough to even know what you're talking about?

Are you somehow putting sand on top/around the base of the speaker? Is this to increase the rigidity/decrease movement etc.. just wondering. thanks!
Jon hit the nail on the head. There is a sub chamber in the base of the speaker cabinet. IIRC, the downloadable ARX manual on the product page has an illustration in it.

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Howdy, thanks for the great posts. I'm new here and currently using Definitive DR-7 towers as my front speakers and while they are 20 years old (first ones I bought with my own money), they still sound terrific. I'm seriously considering an upgrade with a budget of about $1000-$1300.00 this summer and the Chane A5's are at the top of the list because they are so highly regarded. I've not heard them but I think that I prefer nice punchy low end and clear highs from my speakers. I doubt anyone can make a comparison between the DR-7's and the Chane A5's but I thought I would put it out there. I plan to have at least one sub for stereo listing, but I like that the DR-7's can basically stand on their own with that giant front port. Do the Chanes hit pretty low or am I barking up the wrong tree? Is there a huge difference in sound between the A5 and the A3? I might consider the A3's and the matching center as well.

As additional information, I bought the Pioneer SP-FS52 speakers last year and I think that they sound bottled up and a bit thin. The matching center is better than what I had, but I think I ultimately want to match the center to the fronts. With two small children, movies are on the back burner for a few years, so stereo listening is my priority (luxury) right now.

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60% stereo listening via Tidal HiFi
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I had the A3rx-c and now I own the A5rx-c. The A5 in my opinion and experience sound better than the A3. The kids are more pronounce. Bass wise I wouldn't know since I use a PSA-XV15 for my sub. I never really ran the A5's by themselves. I would still recommend a sub though. I would recommend the A5's over the A3's, but some say the A3's is more musical.
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You can cross the A3s to your sub at 60Hz no problem.
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A5rx-c...did anyone change their receiver setting to 6ohms? Just realized that the A5rx-c is 6ohms..I just did that on my x4100w and thought it sounded more open and clear..the bass is now stronger...

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I just noticed that the A5 are 6 ohms. I thought they were 8 ohms. I will try to switch to 6 ohms and see if there's a sound difference with my X4000.
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A5rx-c...did anyone change their receiver setting to 6ohms? Just realized that the A5rx-c is 6ohms..I just did that on my x4100w and thought it sounded more open and clear..the bass is now stronger...
They are a very easy load to drive... easier than many speakers rated as "8 ohm nominal". The A5's impedance curve is very benign. It, literally, never dips below 5 ohms.

There are many popular 8 ohm boxes that dip well into the 4 ohm range. In fact, going by industry convention, Jon could have "rated" them as '8 ohms nominal' and been aligned with industry norms and MANY popular products. Don't sweat the 6-ohm rating.

As for switching your AVRs to a setting other than their 8-ohm std, all you're likely doing is limiting the rail voltage of the amplifier in your AVR.

You're literally limiting the power output, and that's about it. A-holics has a solid article on this very subject, with test numbers. Let me dig for that link...

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http://www.audioholics.com/audio-amp...ector-switch-1
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^ lol...i thought I heard a difference...let me try switching it back to 8ohms then
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^ lol...i thought I heard a difference...let me try switching it back to 8ohms then
You may have heard something change. Every amp designer creates a slightly different product. But, without any sarcasm, I doubt it was a net positive change.

EDIT: And, if it was a positive change, this indicates a flaw in the design of the amplifier.
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I cannot describe how much I am enjoying My A5r-xc towers and A2r-xc center, outstanding value and are a step up from both my Monitor Audio RX6's and Emotiva Stealth 6 monitors, the Stealths were amazing but didn't have that tower sound I prefer, personal preference I guess, they are being fed power from an XPA-5 and I use a Sherbourn PT-7030 as my pre/pro, I am one happy Chane Audio owner

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I cannot describe how much I am enjoying My A5r-xc towers and A2r-xc center, outstanding value and are a step up from both my Monitor Audio RX6's and Emotiva Stealth 6 monitors, the Stealths were amazing but didn't have that tower sound I prefer, personal preference I guess, they are being fed power from an XPA-5 and I use a Sherbourn PT-7030 as my pre/pro, I am one happy Chane Audio owner

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That xpa-5 is a beast. I bet you're getting some great dynamics.

You got pics of your setup?

Pics...well of course haha

My DIY Flexy Rack is behind the wall that my TV is mounted on, I recently sold the XPA-100's as I really didn't need 7 channels of power and I purchased a second Mach 5 IXL-18 sub that isn't complete yet :P





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