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post #1171 of 2125 Old 10-02-2015, 07:17 AM
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A2's for surrounds, killer is right but probably overkill! Or get A1's for now and use them for surrounds later or put them in other places in your house. I got a set as bedroom speakers that I Airplay to via an Airport express. :-) The previous speakers sounded thin and tinny after getting A1's for home theater.
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I have new A2 just got for center channel to pair with new A3's. The A2 is awesome and can rock, has lots of punch & good clarity


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Yup, the A2 is pretty awesome.
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Do it! You won't regret a great purchase.. when the A5's become available you can move em back and have some killer surrounds.
Copy that.

And I ordered a set of A2's last night.

This system is going in my garage and I like to have some tunes. I wired it for 5.1 but will probably go with a 4 speaker system with two AA-1640's. It will be nice.
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A2's for surrounds, killer is right but probably overkill! Or get A1's for now and use them for surrounds later or put them in other places in your house. I got a set as bedroom speakers that I Airplay to via an Airport express. :-) The previous speakers sounded thin and tinny after getting A1's for home theater.

That's exactly what I did. I had the A1's and an A2 for my center while I was waiting for the A5's to be stocked. Once my A5's arrived I just moved the A1's to surround duty, replacing my Polks...and I haven't looked back since!
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Hi everyone.
I just recently upgraded my system from A1b mains to A5 mains..


ver 3.0

to ver 4.0



Don't want to waste my A1b on surrounds... seems like a waste.
So

*Has anyone had any experience with using a1b as near-field monitors (ie for desktop/computer use?). only planar/amt style computer monitor/desktop speaker I see is the emotiva airmotiv 4s/5s.


also been giving thought to these Dayton b652-air
speakers @ 65 for possible cheap surround speakers that have a similar tweeter. only dedicated "surround" with a ribbon/planar/amt is martin logan's motion FX which is kinda pricy.

(I'm currently using klipsch satellite quintets for sides and klipsch satellite rsx-1 for rear cuz they were free/cheap)
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If you have the A2's powered properly they are fine. I am learning now that I need to go up in power (again). Not a big deal, just frustration with cables, moving furniture and other BS.

This really is an amazing speaker...

I have not played LOUD music for a while until today.... Been a while... These speakers do not "wear you out" at high volume.

I was finally "looking for more" today and it was not there. It was not the speakers, just lack of power. I do not venture that far out often, but today, I did.

Any input on Power for these puppies?

I originally had a Newer Pioneer Elite AVR. Don't ask the model #, I cannot remember. I sold that and bought a used Harmon Kardon AVR. Now, the Pioneer was rated at just over 100 watts per channel and the HK is rated at around 50. The Pioneer had a little more power "on top", but the HK just blows it out of the water everywhere else. The HK is real strong until you get up towards the high end. But the HK holds together, where the Pioneer would fall apart?/? Not sure if that makes any sense?

My system is 5.1 but most of my music time is done in 2ch stereo.


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If you have the A2's powered properly they are fine. I am learning now that I need to go up in power (again). Not a big deal, just frustration with cables, moving furniture and other BS.

This really is an amazing speaker...
Couldn't agree more , the A2's are amazing!
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Couldn't agree more , the A2's are amazing!
I'm REALLY looking forward to getting these on Saturday. They're going in a pretty big room (46' x 23' garage--I need to do homework still regarding room treatments).

I'm not even close to being ready for them as I need to build custom hollow 2' deep shelves for the components that will allow heat to rise (preamp, amps, etc...) that will support the weight. I'll temporarily hook them up to hear them, though.

Researching DIY speakers now as that seems like something I would like to do. I have a big space that I would really like to hear some great music in.

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Couldn't agree more , the A2's are amazing!
What I tell ya...
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That's exactly what I did. I had the A1's and an A2 for my center while I was waiting for the A5's to be stocked. Once my A5's arrived I just moved the A1's to surround duty, replacing my Polks...and I haven't looked back since!
I did the exact same thing years ago when the A5s first came out. Great system. I can't believe they are out of stock again!
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Got the A2rx-c's today--a day early!

Hooked them right up to my new to me AA-1640 (totally gone-through) and AP-1800 for LR. First time I've ever turned the amp and pre-amp on and these speakers sound great. Not the best set-up Lol as I don't have the speakers positioned correctly (really just temporary) and it's a garage with no treatments other than a 1952 Farmall Cub, a '74 Bronco and my wife's Durango (OK, there's some other crap too).

If these midwoofers get better with time I will be absolutely amazed. I was wanting the A5-rxc's and these are awesome for me while the A5-rxc's are out of stock. I have a sub that I will hook-up but even without they sound great.

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I have a new A2 for center channel use I am breaking in now with my new A3 towers. The A2 is awesome speaker for the $$, the A3s are VG also but I'm still breaking them in. But so far, VG value & sound


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Got the A2rx-c's today--a day early!

Hooked them right up to my new to me AA-1640 (totally gone-through) and AP-1800 for LR. First time I've ever turned the amp and pre-amp on and these speakers sound great. Not the best set-up Lol as I don't have the speakers positioned correctly (really just temporary) and it's a garage with no treatments other than a 1952 Farmall Cub, a '74 Bronco and my wife's Durango (OK, there's some other crap too).

If these midwoofers get better with time I will be absolutely amazed. I was wanting the A5-rxc's and these are awesome for me while the A5-rxc's are out of stock. I have a sub that I will hook-up but even without they sound great.
Alot of people have said that the Chane speakers get better as they get broken in. When I first got my Chane's I was a bit skeptical about the break-in period but I can attest to the fact that they really do open up after a while (a long while actually), but once they do they almost sound like a completely different speaker. I don't have any measurements to show this however. I'm just going by what my ears have heard over time, for whatever that's worth.

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Alot of people have said that the Chane speakers get better as they get broken in. When I first got my Chane's I was a bit skeptical about the break-in period but I can attest to the fact that they really do open up after a while (a long while actually), but once they do they almost sound like a completely different speaker. I don't have any measurements to show this however. I'm just going by what my ears have heard over time, for whatever that's worth.
Correct. Midwoofers that are capable of this require a longer break-in period than lesser drivers....which is most drivers at this price point. I made ->this:
<- with an early production version of the first gen Arx A3 towers. I had just finished abusing them like this for about two hours (testing crossover for saturation, drivers for thermal issues, etc. for Jon) and they were ridiculously clean even still. Any distortion you hear is the mic in my then Galaxy S2 distorting. Average was well over 100dB. Lawd knows what the peaks were. This was being streamed via the hifi stream (256kbps IIRC) on Pandora.

Now, allow me to be crystal clear: this is abusive. If you need your loudspeakers to play this loud for this long, you need to pony up and at least step into the A5, if not an even larger and higher-output speaker. So, this is not recommended and would very likely jeopardize your warranty. But, it is certainly a testament to the amazing capabilities of these drivers. There are loudspeakers with only one driver, at more than twice the price of these A3s, that won't do that (or even come close). So, an extended break in is physically required by the long travel spider and surround (mostly the spider). And, this break-in has consistently yielded wide-band improvements that reach far out of the bass range.

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Got the A2rx-c's today--a day early!

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If these midwoofers get better with time I will be absolutely amazed. I was wanting the A5-rxc's and these are awesome for me while the A5-rxc's are out of stock. I have a sub that I will hook-up but even without they sound great.
The A5rx-c is in production and arrives before long. Small upgrades were included at both ends of the speaker's response.

We'll announce a new MTM model above the A2rx-c early next year. Details will appear in the new website due out this year.
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The A5's, A2, and A1's are on my short list for my new Home Theater. I have to start looking at making a decision in the coming weeks on which route to go. There is a lot of good in this price range. Chane has come highly recommended.
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Well, I was poking around the forums this morning and stumbled across my old post for speakers. I did a search on the A5rx-c as recommended several weeks ago. They have been out of stock. So, I stumbled over to the Chane forum to see if the A3rx-c or A5rx-c would be better for front LR on my home theater build. Checked out the Hot Deals section and they had a pair of A5rx-c B-stock for sale. Emailed this morning, got a fast reply from Jon, and a few minutes later I purchased a pair.

Now, I am going to be the proud own of a pair of A5rx-c's with nothing to plug them into

Now, I have to start looking at a receiver. I thought about the AVR+amp combo. Then another member recommended going with a better receiver now and get an amp later down the road if it is needed. Since I want to go with Atmos eventually, I was recommended the Denon AVR-X4100W. Would this be sufficient to power these for now? I will eventually be getting 2x A1rx-c and 1x A2rx-c for the 5.1 setup. Anyone have a recommended AVR in the $700 range besides the X4100W?
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Well, I was poking around the forums this morning and stumbled across my old post for speakers. I did a search on the A5rx-c as recommended several weeks ago. They have been out of stock. So, I stumbled over to the Chane forum to see if the A3rx-c or A5rx-c would be better for front LR on my home theater build. Checked out the Hot Deals section and they had a pair of A5rx-c B-stock for sale. Emailed this morning, got a fast reply from Jon, and a few minutes later I purchased a pair.

Now, I am going to be the proud own of a pair of A5rx-c's with nothing to plug them into

Now, I have to start looking at a receiver. I thought about the AVR+amp combo. Then another member recommended going with a better receiver now and get an amp later down the road if it is needed. Since I want to go with Atmos eventually, I was recommended the Denon AVR-X4100W. Would this be sufficient to power these for now? I will eventually be getting 2x A1rx-c and 1x A2rx-c for the 5.1 setup. Anyone have a recommended AVR in the $700 range besides the X4100W?
The X4100 will probably be your best option for the price unless you either want to spend more $$$ or go with something that doesn't support Atmos or DTS-X.

I'm using a X4000, and it drives them just fine. Last night, I was playing music at -3 dBs for a few hours, and it sounded beautifully.
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Regarding an AVR, How about looking at the Marantz SR5010?


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Would [the Denon AVR-X4100W] be sufficient to power these for now? I will eventually be getting 2x A1rx-c and 1x A2rx-c for the 5.1 setup. Anyone have a recommended AVR in the $700 range besides the X4100W?
I'll echo GusGus: This series is sufficient rated power for any of the four models. There are hundreds of options out there and preferences will naturally vary, but in terms of rated power, over 100w a channel is fine, especially if the amplifier has some reserve.

Denon advertises that in this series "all 7 channels [are] configured identically employing discrete high current capable power output devices...and all channels are able to safely drive lower impedance speakers (down to 4 ohms)."

The A5rx-c are 6 ohm speakers with a relatively benign load so this category of amplifier is suitable. Denon also advertises that the X4100W has some dynamic headroom - check the rated power into lower impedances - and this is a good sign. We've recommended high current amplifiers for years...

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Also suitable, and for the same reasons.
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The SR5010 is excellent too. Only issue I see is being a refurbished unit, but they give you 3 years warranty.

If I could sell my X4000 I would definitely buy that SR5010 just to be able to play Atmos and DTS-X.
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The SR5010 is excellent too.
I have been getting great feedback. Based on what I have learned and been told, if I want Atmos definitely make sure you have 4 height speakers. That changes the game drastically and what I need to spend. Since I will not have the HT system for some time, I may just find an inexpensive receiver locally to listen with. As BF approaches, I can keep an eye out for one of those much more expensive receivers. Maybe one of them will come down 25% during BF or CM.

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You guys may of talked about this already but it looks like the bass drivers are changing... any details???

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I don't need improved bass control since I've got a PSA-XV15 for that. What I really want is a better center channel!
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I don't need improved bass control since I've got a PSA-XV15 for that. What I really want is a better center channel!
What is wrong with the current center channel I have 3 of them & think they work really well.

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What is wrong with the current center channel I have 3 of them & think they work really well.
Over size center.
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Over size center.
So buy a single bookshelf, rotate the tweeter and...
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I finally pulled the trigger on a 3rd Arc A2xr-c to complete my front soundstage. For years I had been using a rocket setup 760 LR, 200 C and 150 surround. Last year I moved the 760s to two channel duty in my office and I got a set of Arc A2xr-C for the LR function but left the rest in place. It works fairly well, but I really want the center to match.

I had been going back and forth for the last few weeks. I had also been considering the new Elac line. They do come in a little cheaper and the reviews have been excellent so far. At the same time I tried the andrew jones pioneers and was not really impressed and tried contracting them a couple times for some presale advise and never heard back. I know the new line is supposed to be nothing like the pioneers and I am sure they are good speakers, but I figure I already have 2 arcs so it would be easier then selling those off etc. My front sound stage will be 3 A2rx-c in an LCR config. Later I am going to pick up 4 Arc1rx-c for surround duty.

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I have two A1's with an A2 center and am thinking of either an A 3 or A5 and definitely think you should stick with Chane.
The Elacs look good to me too but as you said the current Jones Pioneers aren't that great but pretty good for their price point which is below either Elac or Chane.
You know Massdrop has deals on both the A1 and A2 right now?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/chane-a...eakers?s=chane
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/chane-a...ode=guest_open

Pretty good deal and I'm grabbing a couple more A1's at least.


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I finally pulled the trigger on a 3rd Arc A2xr-c to complete my front soundstage. For years I had been using a rocket setup 760 LR, 200 C and 150 surround. Last year I moved the 760s to two channel duty in my office and I got a set of Arc A2xr-C for the LR function but left the rest in place. It works fairly well, but I really want the center to match.

I had been going back and forth for the last few weeks. I had also been considering the new Elac line. They do come in a little cheaper and the reviews have been excellent so far. At the same time I tried the andrew jones pioneers and was not really impressed and tried contracting them a couple times for some presale advise and never heard back. I know the new line is supposed to be nothing like the pioneers and I am sure they are good speakers, but I figure I already have 2 arcs so it would be easier then selling those off etc. My front sound stage will be 3 A2rx-c in an LCR config. Later I am going to pick up 4 Arc1rx-c for surround duty.
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