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A close friend of mine at work is looking to buy a set of surround sound speakers.

I've narrowed it down to three choices including a 'fourth choice' that she is currently intending to buy.

But she asked for my help/opinion.

I thought it would be fun for some of you on the AVS forum help me decide what to recommend for her.

Here are the four choices.

1. Energy Take Classic 5.1 - $399.99

2. Mirage Nanosat 5.1 - $599.99

3. Polk Blackstone 1600 5.1 - $399.99

4. Bose Acoustimass 10 w/ Receiver - $899.99

Note: Might be interesting to which of four you would be mostly to buy and which one you would be least likely to buy.

No price talk...these are just general prices that may vary from store to store.

I'm just listing them in case you feel price should influence the choices.

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I would kick the Bose off the list - and go with the >>
NHT SuperZero system
http://www.nhthifi.com/bookshelf-speakers-subwoofer-Super-Surround-5-1?sc=12&category=3830

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I would kick the Bose off the list - and go with the >>
NHT SuperZero system
http://www.nhthifi.com/bookshelf-speakers-subwoofer-Super-Surround-5-1?sc=12&category=3830

Well, the Bose are only on the list because that's the one she was planning on buying.

I'm trying to talk her out of it.
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Well, the Bose are only on the list because that's the one she was planning on buying.
I'm trying to talk her out of it.

I figured that.smile.gif
NHT is still my choice. Good Luck!

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What receiver is included with the Bose at that price?

The package their website shows is

"Packages

Acoustimass® 10 system with Onkyo® TX-NR414 receiver

$1,299.90"
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What receiver is included with the Bose at that price?
The package their website shows is
"Packages
Acoustimass® 10 system with Onkyo® TX-NR414 receiver
$1,299.90"

I didn't personally see them myself but I was guessing it's the same system you mentioned above(Bose AM 10 + Onnkyo 414)...except it sounds like they were charging $899.99 in the store.

She can get the Energy Take 5 Classic w/ the same Onkyo Receiver or Yamaha V313 for $650.00-&700.00.

She could also get the Energy Take 5 Classic w/ a Denon AVR-1613 Receiver for $800.00.

Either way, she saves money and gets a nicer system IMO.

She's buying two systems...one for her bedroom and one for her living room.

I still think, being a woman, she might prefer the looks of the Mirage Nanosat over the Energy Take Five Classic.

But I think the Energy Take Five has a better subwoofer...which is why I kind of prefer it over the more appealing Mirage Nanosat.
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I'm not saying she's a typical 'Bose buyer' but when I asked her what model it was she said '5.1'.

She seem confused when I told her 5.1 applies to every system w/ 5 speakers and subwoofer.

When I told I had Polk speakers, she acted like I had a no-name brand=(
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But I think the Energy Take Five has a better subwoofer...which is why I kind of prefer it over the more appealing Mirage Nanosat.

Better than the Take Classic 5.1 set is the Take Classic 5.0 ($250 @ Amazon) and the Energy S10.3 sub ($199 @ Newegg).

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Update

Finally ordered a set of speakers for my friend.

I had basically talked her into a set of Energy Take Classic 5.0 w/ Bic V1020 subwoofer for $400.00 altogether.

I asked her about wiring and she said she was going to put all five speaker on top of the entertainment center.

Basically, defeating the purpose of having five speakers in the first place...I'm guessing this is normal behavior for a lot of women.

I talked her into a set of Polk Monitor 50's and a Polk CS1 Center.

She went for it and it only cost $239.97.

Subwoofer will either be a Polk PSW10($99.99) or Bic V1020($149.99).

Either way, we will come in under what any of the HTIB I listed would have sold for...hopefully I did the right thing.
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Receiver will probably be a Yamaha V373BL.

So, we originally went from this.

Bose Acoustimass 10 5.1 w/ Onkyo TX-NR414

Price = $899.99 + tax.

To...

2 Polk Monitor 50 speakers.
Polk Monitor CS1 speaker.
Polk PSW10 or Bic V1020 subwoofer.
Yamaha V373BL receiver.

Price = $589.95 - $639.95 + No Tax

If I did the wrong thing...feel free to let me know.

I haven't order the subwoofer or receiver yet and can keep the Monitor 50's for myself if anyone thinks I screwed up.
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The PSW10 is not a very good subwoofer. Best to avoid it.

The BIC V1020 is not so bad, but it's really worth it to step up to the Energy S10.3 sub if you can. If you are determined to go with a BIC, the BIC F12 is the one that gets recommended as a good entry level sub for an HT setup. The S10.3 has a reputation for a little better SQ over the F12 and a little flatter frequency response down to below 30hz. The F12 will have a little more max output.

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The PSW10 is not a very good subwoofer. Best to avoid it.
The BIC V1020 is not so bad, but it's really worth it to step up to the Energy S10.3 sub if you can. If you are determined to go with a BIC, the BIC F12 is the one that gets recommended as a good entry level sub for an HT setup. The S10.3 has a reputation for a little better SQ over the F12 and a little flatter frequency response down to below 30hz. The F12 will have a little more max output.

Thanks.

I'll see what I can do...she didn't sound like she was crazy about having a 'big' subwoofer.

If she decides to put this in the living room rather than the bedroom, I'll see if I can talk into on of the bigger subs(Energy S10.3, F12, PSW505).

The Energy scares me a bit...reviews on Amazon and Newegg complain about having issues w/ it.

I don't doubt that is sounds great though.
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Just to note...the PSW10 was only a consideration if she puts this in her bedroom.

In the living room, I would simply tell her it's not powerful enough.
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Also, I can test this setup w/ a PSW110 sub in my own living room and see what it sounds like before making a decision.

The PSW110 falls inbetween the PSW10 and the other subwoofers you mentioned.

I can have her come over and listen to it w/ the PSW110 before making a decision.
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It's not just power. The PSW10 is just not a very good sub overall in terms of SQ and frequency extension.

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Thanks.

I was surprised the PSW10 has so many good reviews on Newegg and Amazon.

Seems underpowered and the Polk subwoofers, other than the PSW505, aren't very highly regarded here.

I'll take it off the list.
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I forgot about the PSW505. It's $200 right now at Newegg. That's a good deal on that one, too.

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So are the BOSE speakers any good? I haven't seen any AVS member suggest BOSE for anything. I almost bought a Bose Acoustimass 10 5.1 for $600.00 dollars on Craiglist, but after exchanging emails with the seller it sounded too shady.

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So are the BOSE speakers any good? I haven't seen any AVS member suggest BOSE for anything. I almost bought a Bose Acoustimass 10 5.1 for $600.00 dollars on Craiglist, but after exchanging emails with the seller it sounded too shady.

I think the big problem w/ them is that they are overpriced.

Specs are not published but it's quite common to hear people claim voices come from the subwoofer.

For an audiophile...that's would probably be quite irritating.

From what I've heard myself, which is very little, they don't sound very musical.

Tinny and harsh is how I would describe what I've heard.

Maybe that works great for playing 'Call Of Duty' but I can't imagine listening to music on them.
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It also scares me that Crutchfield, in their video review of the Bose AM10, says that they are a nice upgrade from TV speakers.

That's kind of a scary endorsement for something that usually goes for around a thousand bucks.

A nice set of speakers should never be compared to TV speakers.

They should be compared to other speakers IMO.
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It also scares me that Crutchfield, in their video review of the Bose AM10, says that they are a nice upgrade from TV speakers.
That's kind of a scary endorsement for something that usually goes for around a thousand bucks.
A nice set of speakers should never be compared to TV speakers.
They should be compared to other speakers IMO.

So even Crutchfield is not willing to push them. LOL

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Approximately 2 years ago, I was talking with one of the Best Buy employees...an older employee probably in his 30's. We were talking about speakers, and he didn't really recommend the Bose either. He said for a bedroom they will sound good, but for a medium to large living room area or HT set up he said they wouldn't perform well.

I've been thinking of buying better speakers, but the wife said "NO." However, she let me buy a pair of Jamo S426 towers from Fry's that were on sale for $87 dollars biggrin.gif I was surprised. They sound pretty good.

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