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Hi guys, my first post here. I have been on this forum for about 5 months reading up on HT systems. So a few days ago my wife and brothers pooled money together and bought me an Epson 8050 Projector and pioneer lx-53 av receiver. I just purchased a house and this would be perfect for my man cave. I am pretty handy, so i have started working on the platform for the seats.

I finally decided that i WONT be getting 7 speakers, so i will be utilizing 5 speakers. Now comes the hard part - what should i get? I would like to have the speakers be budget friendly as i have spent a lot on home renovations - so $1000 - 1500 would be my budget as i also want to get a motorized screen. Can you guys/gals please help me? 3 brands and models would be greatly appreciated. I can then hopefully narrow it down.

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Polk CS2 Center Channel Speaker
Polk Monitor 60 or Monitor 70 Front Speakers
Polk Monitor 40, Monitor 50, or Monitor 60 Rear Speakers
Bic America F12 or Polk PSW505 Powered Subwoofer.

These are all pretty affordable and will all sound very nice together.
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A recommendation I gave in this price range recently:
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Here is what I would do:
Front left/right speakers: Infinity Primus p163 x 2: $220
Center speaker: Infinity Primus c351: $200
Surround speakers: BIC America DV62si x 4: $220
Subwoofer: Hsu VTF2 mk4: $612
If you are a member of Amazon Prime, then after delivery all that ought to be less than $1250. That is a killer system for 1250, believe me!
Alternatively you could use these Pioneer SP-BS21-LR for surrounds, especially if you need something a bit smaller. If you need something really small for surrounds, try these, but the smaller your speaker gets, the less capable it is, especially for bass. An alternate subwoofer which is also very good is the Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus.

Since you can spend a bit more than 1250 and are just staying with 5.1, a recommendation I would make is the Hsu Hybrid 2 package, or maybe get one of the Hsu packages with a better sub and use a cheaper surround speaker like the above listed BIC America DV62si speakers. If you are going to have a nice projection system, get a nice sound system that will match it.
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if you live near a Fry's Electronics store they have the Infinity P163's for $108/pr this week.

http://www.frys.com/ads/audio-video-television-cameras-portable-car-electronics

Actually available online too but limit is two speakers. So if you want more you'd have to make two seperate orders. You could get two pair of those and the PC351 center and you will have only spent about $420.
http://www.frys.com/product/7237393

This will leave you plenty for a very nice subwoofer.

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So the woofer is the most important of all the speakers? I dont know why i thought it was the center speaker. Also, which motorized screen would you guys recommend? I would like to install it infront of my 55inch tv.

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if you live near a Fry's Electronics store they have the Infinity P163's for $108/pr this week.
http://www.frys.com/ads/audio-video-television-cameras-portable-car-electronics
Actually available online too but limit is two speakers. So if you want more you'd have to make two seperate orders. You could get two pair of those and the PC351 center and you will have only spent about $420.
http://www.frys.com/product/7237393
This will leave you plenty for a very nice subwoofer.

Those are very good speakers, and that is an terrific price.

The most important speakers are the front left and right channels. The center is important too, as is the subwoofer, but, in my opinion, the base of the audio system should be the front left/right. The reason why the subwoofer is relatively expensive next to the speakers is bass, especially deep bass, is difficult to do well, and can't be done inexpensively. However, getting a good sub saves you from having to spend a lot on a front stage that would have deeper bass extension. You just won't need bog speakers that can dig below 80 hz if you have a good sub, so it makes more sense for overall performance and for your pocket book to splurge on the sub and use bookshelf speakers for your front stage.
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Infinity is a good deal for the price
HSU is a good choice

Another option, since you asked for 3 - is HTD Level Three >
however, get the sub from the sub experts.
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers

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Ok - so i bought a screen and now am finalizing the speakers.
What do you guys think of JBL ES80 for the left and right speakers and JBL ES25C for center? Pls keep in mind my room is about 18 * 15 ft and i have a Pioneer VSX 53 receiver.

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Amazon has quite of few Infinity speakers at heavily discounted prices. Take a look there.
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You can't spend too much on speakers, as they don't go obsolete before you get to the car with them, like most electronics.

I suggest stereo subs or just speakers with enough bass.
I have not been happy with center mixes, so don't use a center speaker.

i like to use a dual pair of front left and right drivers, one set central and one spaced wide.
Adjust volume to balance.
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e, there is some debate about which speakers are most important to HT. Some say the center, because much of your movie dialogue come through the center. Some say the subwoofer, as much of the special affects will be heavy on low freq sound. Many think your Front L/R are critical- since you can configure a very good 2.0 or 2.1 HT system w/o even having a center channel. However, the "front stage" is without question most important to a good HT experience. And to address one poster above, atleast in my HT set up, the center channel really adds balance and clarity to my HT. Before I had a decent center, I had to balance volume so I could hear the dialogue with special affects, which were often too loud!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
Set up #3: JBL130, JBL120C and Klipsch synergy sub
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what do you guys think of the ES 80 speakers for the L and R speakers with the receiver i have?
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if you can, look at jbl l890 and do a search for stereophile .com they're a little more expensive from es 80 on amazon stereophile.com did a nice reciew awhile back.
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man those look good. I wish i could get them. After buying the screen - i am not left with as much money as i would like. So for about 500 dollars - i was planning on buying the JBL ES 80 left and right. I just didnt know what you guys thought about using the ES 80 with the receiver? Also, i have read good things about it but havent heard it in real life, so thought id check with you guys first.

Also - is there a difference between the ES 80 and the ES 80BK?

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I am pretty skeptical of those 4-way JBLs. Why do you need a tweeter crossed over at 20 Khz? It looks like they stuffed that cabinet with drivers just because they could.
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Which JBLs would you recommend? Also ES80 and ES80BK - are they the same?
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Lol, I would recommend the JBL Everest DD66000s if you could afford them! But seriously, I am interested in the two way JBL Studio series, specifically the 530, 570, 580, and 590. I haven't heard them but would very much like to. But those those four way ES80 with "ultra tweeters" smacks of marketing. They should have put the money spent on that useless extra tweeter into better cabinet bracing. Anyway, it doesn't look like the two way studio series is in your budget range. If you want good affordable tower speakers I would be taking a close look at the Infinity Primus p363, those you can afford. However on your budget, I think your money would go further with bookshelf speakers. You won't need the deeper bass extension of tower speakers if you get a halfway decent subwoofer. Let the sub deal with bass.
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Hi guys -
So i bought the speakers. I just realized - how will i bring the wire all the way till the receiver? I plan on keeping the receiver at the back of the room. What should i buy for JBL wires to reach the final destination?

Thanks all.
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Get affordable wire from the hardware store or from monoprice.com
If you are going to run them through walls and the like, get the CL-2 in-wall rated version:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2817&seq=1&format=2

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