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I have been reading WAAAY too much about these speakers, and when I think I want one of them I start to look at the other brand. My room is 15'x15' with 9' ceilings. Hard wood floors. Sub will be a BIC F12. Receiver will be a Yamaha V765. I can afford both of these sets for a 5.1 system. Fronts will be in bookcases 18" deep, and the rear surrounds will be mounted from the ceiling in the back corners of the room. The front speakers will be 15' from the listening position (couch against the back wall). Has anyone heard both and can give a good comparison? Is there a dedicated center channel that will work better with the SZ's than just using a fifth one on its side? If there is a better center channel, I need to keep it smaller than the S50 and around the same price. Anyone have any inside secrets about where to get the Cambridges for the lowest price? One Call will discount the SZ's a little, but they only have 1 in stock and dont know when they will get more. Thanks.

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The SuperZeros are nice mini monitors. However, the S30s have the advantage of some good mid-bass response because of the bigger drivers. I'd choose them over the SuperZeros, especially given the distance of your seating position from the front soundstage.

However, for the price of the S30/S50 set, I'd recommend the Energy RC-10s and RC-LCR. I own both the RC-10s and the Cambridge S30, and prefer the RC series. I realize these are little bit bigger and may not fit your needs, but check them out just in case.

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Hands down, the Cambridge S30 > and they do have bass.

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fwiw, i own a pair of the cambridge audio s30's and also a few pair of more costly speakers and they do a great job in comparison of reproducing music. great bass and mids for such a small speaker. i very rearly see them on sale but sometimes audioadvisor has some open box at discount prices. the nht sz are also nice but lacking in the lower and mids. with your size room the s-30 is more the choice imo. you can save a few bucks by buying the s-20's for the surrounds

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Im in the market for a pair of cambridge audio s30's.
Theyre definately worth the money. They also look great.
Excellent speakers destroying many competitors at nearly double the price
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Both speakers have the same size drivers.The cambridge have more bass because they are rear ported.May be a problem using in a bookcase as the OP wants.
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Both speakers have the same size drivers.The cambridge have more bass because they are rear ported.May be a problem using in a bookcase as the OP wants.

I think it was zieglj01 that pointed out one time that the S30 drivers are actually more the size of a 5" driver when you examine them closely. But you are right about the porting making a difference in overall bass response.

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Both speakers have the same size drivers.The cambridge have more bass because they are rear ported.May be a problem using in a bookcase as the OP wants.

No, they don't. Yes, on paper, they're both listed as 4.5" drivers...But if you actually measure the woofer diameter, the S30 is larger... It's close in size to the 5.25" woofers in the NHT Absolute Zero and Energy RC-10 (yes, I measured all three at one point).

The S30 have more bass because they have a slightly larger, more capable woofers, and it's in a larger, ported cabinet.

I agree though, bookcase placement would not be ideal for the S30.
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I think it was zieglj01 that pointed out one time that the S30 drivers are actually more the size of a 5" driver when you examine them closely. But you are right about the porting making a difference in overall bass response.

Oops, you already covered it... Didn't even see this before I posted.
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Oops, you already covered it... Didn't even see this before I posted.

No. Don't apologize. You've measured them. I couldn't remember who measured the driver. I was guessing Jim since he's Mr. S30 (lol)

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But I can always pull the S30's out from against the back of the bookcase.....they will be 18" deep so as not to block the porting.

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But I can always pull the S30's out from against the back of the bookcase.....they will be 18" deep so as not to block the porting.

Yes, pull them to the front edge when listening to them - put some bumper feet
under them - keep the top, sides and bottom of the speaker, from touching the
other parts of the cabinet.

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Got ya Jim. Thanks! Do you have anyplace that you know of where I can get them cheaper? Also, would the S20's be ok for surrounds, or should I just go with (4) S30's and (1) S50?

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I was about to pull the trigger on the S30/S50 combo a couple of weeks ago, but crutchfield is out of stock on the S50 centers, and it seems on amazon I can't find a seller with both the S30 & S50. I would prefer to order both from the same place.

Seems not many places carry these online. I would think the S20s would be ok for surround use.
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Audio advisors has them in stock.

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Hey Jim.....would you say that the S20's are a good pairing with the S30's? Am I buying myself anything using the S30's for rear surrounds as well?

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Hey Jim.....would you say that the S20's are a good pairing with the S30's? Am I buying myself anything using the S30's for rear surrounds as well?

I answered your PM > the S20 can work for you as surrounds.

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No, they don't. Yes, on paper, they're both listed as 4.5" drivers...But if you actually measure the woofer diameter, the S30 is larger... It's close in size to the 5.25" woofers in the NHT Absolute Zero and Energy RC-10 (yes, I measured all three at one point).
The S30 have more bass because they have a slightly larger, more capable woofers, and it's in a ported cabinet.
I agree though, bookcase placement would not be ideal for the S30.

The S30 is also in a deeper cabinet. 8" deep vs 5.75" for the NHT. So that actually contributes to the deeper bass too.

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The S30 is also in a deeper cabinet. 8" deep vs 5.75" for the NHT. So that actually contributes to the deeper bass too.

They are 9" deep - their marketing department can not get the dimensions right.

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The S30 is also in a deeper cabinet. 8" deep vs 5.75" for the NHT. So that actually contributes to the deeper bass too.

True... My post is missing the word "larger" before ported... I suppose I should add that.
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No. Don't apologize. You've measured them. I couldn't remember who measured the driver. I was guessing Jim since he's Mr. S30 (lol)

I think Jim did as well.
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