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Just about to make the jump to ATMOS at home. I have a dedicated home theatre with drop celling already in place. I have older KEF Q5 front, Q9 Center, and Q800DS surrounds. Just shy of 8 foot celling and I am looking for good KEF in ceiling speakers that will work well with ATMOS. Any thoughts?

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Just about to make the jump to ATMOS at home. I have a dedicated home theatre with drop celling already in place. I have older KEF Q5 front, Q9 Center, and Q800DS surrounds. Just shy of 8 foot celling and I am looking for good KEF in ceiling speakers that will work well with ATMOS. Any thoughts?
If money is no object these are the best Ci200RR-THX- http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/...0RR/index.html
Otherwise these Ci200QR

- http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom/...0QR/index.html
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I don't think so there are four screws in that thing, http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Downlo...c/AM_1_QSG.pdf

plus I will be using these http://www.easyanchors.com/img/pdf%2..._specSheet.pdf

Each speakers weight 8.8 lb so I think it should be fine

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/Downlo...ochure-ENG.pdf

I absolutely want to see pics of your setup!
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I have a pair of LS50s that I recently acquired for an office system. Does anybody have a recommendation for a musical subwoofer that will be used in conjunction with the LS50s in a near field situation that is under $500?
Don't do it. The LS50 is too good for most subwoofers.

The attached picture is the only setup where the subwoofer managed to integrate perfectly into the LS50.
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I absolutely want to see pics of your setup!
Which one the LS50 set up or B&W set up?
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The LS50 set up please......
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The LS50 set up please......

Yes. Ls50 setup please. If at all possible. No pressure. :P. I'm about to wall mount my LS50s as surrounds and I'm hoping to get a creative idea since it seems I only have one optimal place to install it.
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Hey guys!

I want to buy a pair of LS50 as computer speakers, ran by a NAD D 3020.

The problem is that they will be really close to the walls, like 5 cm from them. And not at my ear height.

Is that a problem?
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Hey guys!

I want to buy a pair of LS50 as computer speakers, ran by a NAD D 3020.

The problem is that they will be really close to the walls, like 5 cm from them. And not at my ear height.

Is that a problem?
Depends on what your previous setup is. It's definitely not optimal, but KEF provides port plugs for this case.

I would recommend a front ported design instead. Audition the B&W PM1.

The LS50's main weak point is the lack of dynamic bass. It takes a lot of enjoyment out of the music. You won't be able to restore it with ordinary subwoofers either, the LS50 will reveal how horrible majority of subs even in the $1000 range is.
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Depends on what your previous setup is. It's definitely not optimal, but KEF provides port plugs for this case.

I would recommend a front ported design instead. Audition the B&W PM1.

The LS50's main weak point is the lack of dynamic bass. It takes a lot of enjoyment out of the music. You won't be able to restore it with ordinary subwoofers either, the LS50 will reveal how horrible majority of subs even in the $1000 range is.
coli,

Thought you had great integration with the Rythmik F12G-SE with your LS50 based on the following post: Official Rythmik Audio Subwoofer thread, crossover at 100Hz if not mistaken using Audyssey XT32?

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Depends on what your previous setup is. It's definitely not optimal, but KEF provides port plugs for this case.

I would recommend a front ported design instead. Audition the B&W PM1.

The LS50's main weak point is the lack of dynamic bass. It takes a lot of enjoyment out of the music. You won't be able to restore it with ordinary subwoofers either, the LS50 will reveal how horrible majority of subs even in the $1000 range is.
Space is a constraint, so the PM1 are too big and EXPENSIVE. My previous setup are a pair of Altec Lansing little speakers that cost me 75€. So I think I will notice the difference.

As these will be mainly used with music I don't think bass is really a problem ?¿

Oh and I plan on pairing them with a NAD 3020D, any thoughts on this (I need an amplifier with a DAC)

Thanks

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coli,

Thought you had great integration with the Rythmik F12G-SE with your LS50 based on the following post: Official Rythmik Audio Subwoofer thread, crossover at 100Hz if not mistaken using Audyssey XT32?
It's great, yes. However, I ran into floor vibration issues that distracts massively from the music... Also, the F12G lacks dynamics. Finally, there is something that doesn't sound right with the "overall" sound that I suspect might be due to servo, not sure though, but it is caused by the sub. Hence me selling the F12G and switching to PV1D

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Space is a constraint, so the PM1 are too big and EXPENSIVE. My previous setup are a pair of Altec Lansing little speakers that cost me 75€. So I think I will notice the difference.

As these will be mainly used with music I don't think bass is really a problem ?¿

Oh and I plan on pairing them with a NAD 3020D, any thoughts on this (I need an amplifier with a DAC)

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Interesting, then I'll recommend the Audyssey Media speaker instead. No experience with the NAD.
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Has anyone tried the R50 on top of the LS50?
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It's great, yes. However, I ran into floor vibration issues that distracts massively from the music... Also, the F12G lacks dynamics. Finally, there is something that doesn't sound right with the "overall" sound that I suspect might be due to servo, not sure though, but it is caused by the sub. Hence me selling the F12G and switching to PV1D
Interesting commeents on the mono-sub intergration with the LS50. Would like your feedback on the comparison between PV1D vs. F12G with your LS50.

I'm wondering how much your listening room is having an impact to the sound reproduction experience. Room boundary interference of the soundwaves, direct vs. reflected, decays all play a part in the overall sound. It doesn't help that music isn't recorded to set standard and one has no idea where the master reference is at. The record companies and the music industry in general are a not entirely blameless for this mess.

One could be going around in circles trying to chase perfection and getting confused with different sources.

With the LS50, I would think one is around 90%. It's that last 10% that can be very costly and frustrating.

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Any suggestion for a good Integrated Amplifier with Digital Ins for these KEF's and with a price tag of 600$ max?
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What is your source/player?
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It's great, yes. However, I ran into floor vibration issues that distracts massively from the music... Also, the F12G lacks dynamics. Finally, there is something that doesn't sound right with the "overall" sound that I suspect might be due to servo, not sure though, but it is caused by the sub. Hence me selling the F12G and switching to PV1D
I've found the SubDude platforms to work really well for me. My listening room is right over the downstairs bedroom, and I get no late night complains from the DW.
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Has anyone tried the R50 on top of the LS50?
Have you ever thought of using a pair, such as the side channels, and angle them upward, towards the ceiling to create a 5.x.2 configuration? For all you know that might work, temporarily, until you figure out what goes mounted on your ceiling.

If I have seven LS50s, like you do - then I'd would try that first.
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Have you ever thought of using a pair, such as the side channels, and angle them upward, towards the ceiling to create a 5.x.2 configuration? For all you know that might work, temporarily, until you figure out what goes mounted on your ceiling.

If I have seven LS50s, like you do - then I'd would try that first.
GREAT IDEA I never thought of that I will do that and report back!
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I've found the SubDude platforms to work really well for me. My listening room is right over the downstairs bedroom, and I get no late night complains from the DW.
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This is a great idea. Room treatments for coli might be the better option if it is possible - WAF permitting.

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I've found the SubDude platforms to work really well for me. My listening room is right over the downstairs bedroom, and I get no late night complains from the DW.
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LOL, close. It's an RVer term. Either dear wife...or dead weight, depending on the mood. But yours would work too.

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This is a great idea. Room treatments for coli might be the better option if it is possible - WAF permitting.
Agree. And if the WAF doesn't permit...I've always said the one biggest upgrade to my system was moving it into a dedicated WAF free room. The rest easily follows after that.
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Space is a constraint, so the PM1 are too big and EXPENSIVE. My previous setup are a pair of Altec Lansing little speakers that cost me 75€. So I think I will notice the difference.

As these will be mainly used with music I don't think bass is really a problem ?¿

Oh and I plan on pairing them with a NAD 3020D, any thoughts on this (I need an amplifier with a DAC)

Thanks
I'm driving my LS50s with the D3020 and the sound is wonderful. I have not compared with any other amps, mind you, but for my purposes I think the D3020 is the best option in an integrated amp under $1k.
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GREAT IDEA I never thought of that I will do that and report back!

Interesting idea. Considering the r50 atmos speakers are already $1200/pr and uses the same uni-q speaker design, hopefully it'll give you a good idea of what atmos will be like.
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Interesting idea. Considering the r50 atmos speakers are already $1200/pr and uses the same uni-q speaker design, hopefully it'll give you a good idea of what atmos will be like.
Yes those R50 are very pricey, they look like they could fit on top of the LS50?

I tried installing them on the top, and was not happy with the result! I think on or in ceiling is a better solution Oh well
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Yes those R50 are very pricey, they look like they could fit on top of the LS50?

I tried installing them on the top, and was not happy with the result! I think on or in ceiling is a better solution Oh well

Did you just put them on top or did you try angling them up towards the ceiling?
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Did you just put them on top or did you try angling them up towards the ceiling?
I just put them on top, I can't really angle them too worried they would fall!
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