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I am going to get a home theater system in the near future and have some questions and want some help. I have been looking at these two speakers the studio 10's and the mini monitors would it be worth paying the extra money to get the 10's or are there any other speakers i should look into my room is a 15ft by 12ft with 8ft ceilings

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I have the studio 10v5's in my smaller bedroom and they sound great. Soon i am selling them when i get my new Paradgim Inspirations.

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Thank you for the reply. Do you have any experience with the mini monitors and are the studio 10s a clear sound/high volumes. I think i might go to a dealer and listen to some also what are the inspirations.
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Either will be loud enough in that sIze room. It comes down to if you think it's worth it or not to move up to the studios. I compared the mini monitors v6 and the studio 20 v3 in my room for quite a while and the difference for music was well worth the extra money for me. If I only watched movies I don't know if it would have been. The best thing to do is compare them at home but listening at a dealer is good too.



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So would you suggest the studio 10s because the 20s aren't in my budget....so these are plenty good enough for my room size
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For a small room the Studio 10v5 sound great. Very clear and clean. I would add a nice sub for movies to give them more of a kick. I went from a Klipsch RF7 setup to the Studio10's. I feel i am missing nothing compared to the RF7's. Now for pure raw power the RF7's were the winner. I just think the Studio's sound cleaner.

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do you think the hsu stf-2 will be good enough for a sub
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do you think the hsu stf-2 will be good enough for a sub

Not sure since i have never researched that brand of sub. I have a SVS PB12-NSD and it gets the job done and will not break the bank on price.

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So would you suggest the studio 10s because the 20s aren't in my budget....so these are plenty good enough for my room size

If I didn't have the Studio 20s I would probably go with the SE1. They are cheaper than the Studio 10s and have a very similar sound. The big advantage of getting the Studio 10s would be that you could pair them with a CC590 or CC490. With the SE1 you only have one option which is the SE Center. The CC590 might be overkill in your room but I went with the CC570 in a similar size room and it's incredible. I would give the SE1s a listen though and see what you think. You could go with something cheaper for surrounds like the Atoms. I have the mini monitors doing surround duty and they blend very well with my studios. Matching the front 3 is really important but for surrounds you have more leeway.



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So out of the studio 10s and the SE1 what one would you pick, They are both in my budget. I would most likely get the atoms for the surrounds and for a sub i was thinking of getting the hsu stf-2 it looks pretty good for the price what do you think of it. I will go in a couple of weeks to give them all a listen.
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I personally can't find enough of a difference between the SE1 and the studio 10s to constitute the increase in price. The 10s look better but sound wise I don't hear much of a difference. If you can listen to both of them in the same room with the same setup at the dealer then you may be able to tell more of a difference than I could so the best thing to do is listen to them and decide. If they are in different rooms then it becomes more challenging because you hear more of the room interaction with the speakers.
I was actually saving up for an HSU sub when I found an incredible deal on two JBLs on craigslist and couldn't resist. There are some reviews online you can find for HSU subs and they are always really good. I really don't think you can go wrong with them. I prefer 12s myself but the good thing about the stf-2 is that it’s priced pretty reasonable so you could always add a second one down the line if you needed to. If you go with the SE1 instead of the Studio 10 then you may be able to put the money you save toward VTF-2 mk3. I think the 12 would have a lot more impact in your room. My room is 10 x 12 with 8 foot ceilings and I'm using two 12" JBLs. It really shakes the whole house and JBLs are not on the level of an HSU. I’m not saying you won’t be happy with the stf-2. I’m just throwing some ideas out there.



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I will probably go with the studio 10s, so i can get the centers that are in the studio line.Yea the price is good on the stf-2 so i might buy one then down the road buy a second because i don't see a difference in the stf-2 and vf-2. if i did how would i hook two up to a receiver and what receivers should i look at to power these
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Most mid priced receivers now have a dual subwoofer out on them but it’s really nothing more than an internal y splitter. You can’t control the volume separately or eq them separately on the receiver. You have to move up to the higher priced receivers for that option. My brother is using a Denon 2112 with his SE system and I have a Denon 3311 with my system. I like the Denons myself but you have plenty of options. It just depends on your price range. If it only has one sub out you can just get a cheap y splitter from radio shack and be good to go.



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Ya I was looking at the denon am onkyo receivers so they just need to have one sub in am then I can buy a y splitter am put the in that will it affect the quality am how do I tell if it will give the speakers enough power
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The y splitter will not hurt sound quality so don't worry about 1 or 2 sub outs.

How much are you wanting to spend on a receiver?

Most decent receivers will have enough power to run the studio 10s or se1 in that size room. Denon and Onkyo both have good amp sections for their price range so features should be the biggest concern. The Denon 2113 is a good option or if you can find last years Onkyo 709 that would be a good one as well.



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I have not really looked at receivers so I don't know the price range I would say something kind of cheap.What do you mean by being able to power for my room size I want something that will be good because I will be moving but the room won't be much bigger probably it will still be a bedroom so your saying I need a amp to go with the receiver or is the amp in the receiver I'm confused
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I have not really looked at receivers so I don't know the price range I would say something kind of cheap.What do you mean by being able to power for my room size I want something that will be good because I will be moving but the room won't be much bigger probably it will still be a bedroom so your saying I need a amp to go with the receiver or is the amp in the receiver I'm confused

I used a Pioneer Elite SC35 and now a SC61 to run my studio 10's and 490cc and they both seemed to be plenty good. Not sure if you want to spend that much on AVR.

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I have not really looked at receivers so I don't know the price range I would say something kind of cheap.What do you mean by being able to power for my room size I want something that will be good because I will be moving but the room won't be much bigger probably it will still be a bedroom so your saying I need a amp to go with the receiver or is the amp in the receiver I'm confused

I was talking about the amps in the receiver. You won't need an external amp for your setup.

If you want to go cheap on the receiver I would look at open box or refurbished units. You can get an open box Denon 2113 from amazon for a pretty good price.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00829USIU/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1350914045&sr=8-1&keywords=denon+2113&condition=used

Or refurbished 2113
http://www.accessories4less.com/index.php?page=item&id=DENAVR2113CI&gclid=CMWmqeLilLMCFQMFnQodKgIAhg

or refurbished Onkyo 709
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR709/Onkyo-TX-NR709-7.2-Channel-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html



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to chasls2: i dint think i want to spend quite that much

to mjpearce023: i looked at these theses look nice for the price but are the defective they are refurbished
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check these out and tell me what you think
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the avr-1513
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do i need 7.1 for my bedroom or not
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Refurbished can mean that the unit was defective and sent back to the manufacturer to be refurbished or it could just be somebody didn't know how to work something and returned it. The refurbs from A4L have a 1 year warranty on them so if there is a problem you can get it fixed. Also Amazon will have good deals on open box items sometimes and you can get a pretty good deal there. That’s how I got my Denon 3311 for a great price and it looked brand new.

The receivers you listed are entry level receivers that don't really have much to them. I would look at something that at least comes with Audyssey auto setup as it made a big difference with my system. A good option would be the Denon 1713 or last years 1712. It comes with Audyssey MutlEQ XT which is a really nice feature to have, especially if you don't have an SPL meter. The 1613 would also work but try to stretch for the 17 series if you can.

No, 7.1 is not required for small rooms.



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