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I am getting frustrated trying to figure out what speakers to get lol. At first I was set on Polk Monitor 70 but then I saw Infinity Primus 363 for even cheaper. With the holidays coming up, I bet there will be even bigger sales coming soon.

What I want is great music speakers bookshelf or floor standing with very accurate and clear sound. Also plan on using these for Home theater. If its better to get 2 very nice bookshelf/floor stand speakers first then the rest later I will. My budget for the speakers alone is 500-800. I still need a subwoofer and receiver to get later.
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I am getting frustrated trying to figure out what speakers to get lol. At first I was set on Polk Monitor 70 but then I saw Infinity Primus 363 for even cheaper. With the holidays coming up, I bet there will be even bigger sales coming soon.
What I want is great music speakers bookshelf or floor standing with very accurate and clear sound. Also plan on using these for Home theater. If its better to get 2 very nice bookshelf/floor stand speakers first then the rest later I will. My budget for the speakers alone is 500-800. I still need a subwoofer and receiver to get later.

With that budget you are limited. At the moment, I've got a 7.1 system from a HTIB HT-S9100THX, which I bought 4 years ago. It was great when I lived in a 3 bedroom apartment, but now I live in a 3 bedroom house with open floor living room and kitchen. Furthermore, my son and daughter (3 and 6 years old) have put holes, spilled soda and shipped several of my speakers.

I ended up getting the JAMO S426 towers for Front left / right, and I had a Klipsch C1, which I am using for centers. I've got Pioneers 21's for surround and surround back. The sub is still the same that came with the HTIB, which is an onkyo 10". So, after doing a lot of reading, waiting on sales, and going to stores to listen to speakers....I made my mind to buy the Pioneers FS51, and 22. Since it was going to cost me a little over $300.00 for that set up.

However, after listening to them several times at Best Buy...I found them to sound too low, and I had to crank up the volume to make them sound loud enough. My Jamo S426's are louder and have more bass then the Pioneers. However, the Pioneers were detailed and clear.

I tested the Polk Audios and Klipsch as well. Both of them sounded louder at lowered volume, and they too sounded clear and detailed. I cranked up the volume just as I did with the Pioneers, and they both sounded good. However, the price for the Pioneers was just right. I decided to sleep it off for a day or so.

The next day at 2 AM, I received a sales add from newegg.com, which had the Polk Audio Monitor 70 on sale for $149.99 each. Approximately, 2 minutes later I had ordered 2 Monitor 70's. For $149.99 is hard to beat, and I like the way the Polk Audio sound better than the Pioneers.

My parents have the Infinity 5.0 set up with a Valodyne sub. It sounds really nice. All I can recommend is for you to go to the stores and listen to those speakers. Only you can decide, which one SOUNDS BETTER TO YOU! You will be able to make your decision after that.

Another thing is that the Polk Audio Monitor 70's come with a 5 yr. warranty. The Pioneers only have 1 yr.

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How much would I have to increase my budget for the speakers to make a big difference? If I could get 2 awesome speakers for now I might be ok with that but only if its not THAT much of a price jump.
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I went with the Infinity 363's and I am happy with their performance so far. I just ordered the pc351 to finish the LCR. Paid $200 for the towers & a little over $200 for the center. I have the Klipsch RW12 which was $300 and the rear speakers will only cost $100 for the pair so I will be right at $800 for the entire 5.1
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How much would I have to increase my budget for the speakers to make a big difference? If I could get 2 awesome speakers for now I might be ok with that but only if its not THAT much of a price jump.

Very subjective question that is not easy to answer. However the way I look at is to go by the available purchase price vs the stated MSRP. In the case of the monitor 70's, they are available right now for $149 each, so a little over $300 for a pair including taxes and shipping. The suggested MSRP from polk states these speakers should cost $499 each or a little over $1000 a pair. If one were to spend in the neighborhood of $1000 for a pair of speakers, it stands to reason to expect a noticeable upgrade in sound and build quality over the monitor 70's...at least that is what I tell myself. biggrin.gif

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What I want is great music speakers bookshelf or floor standing with very accurate and clear sound. Also plan on using these for Home theater. If its better to get 2 very nice bookshelf/floor stand speakers first then the rest later I will. My budget for the speakers alone is 500-800. I still need a subwoofer and receiver to get later.

Have you listened to any speakers at all? Do you know what characteristics you like in a speaker? Is that $500-800 budget supposed to be for 2 or 5 speakers?
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How much would I have to increase my budget for the speakers to make a big difference? If I could get 2 awesome speakers for now I might be ok with that but only if its not THAT much of a price jump.

You need some kind of reference point. What are you comparing these potentially awesome speakers to?

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There aren't any stores around here that have quality speakers, even the Best Buy here has a very limited selection. No Electronics Expo or Fry's. I only had the chance to listen to a couple systems at other houses and never did find out what they were. I am very new to home theater systems which is why I am asking, want to make sure I get the best I can with the budget. The 500-800 limit is for 5 speakers. I wish there were stores around here so I could listen and see what I like. I love clear, accurate sound. Bass is OK but I don't like muddled sound or voice. Music is the main reason I want a system but I also watch a ton of movies/TV series and gaming.
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Sent an email or call the people at HTD or HSU. They will tell you what you need and steer you at the right direction according to your budget.

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I would look at those HSU bookshelves. Good speaker for a great price
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I would look at those HSU bookshelves. Good speaker for a great price

I agree as well. I wish they made towers rather than just bookshelves. Once we get our new house (hopefully next year), I will buy a new surround sound from HTD.

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How big a room? What do you think will be your budget for a receiver? Sub? Just to see the whole picture so to speak.

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Room is about 15 x 20 if I remember right. I planned on getting the Denon 2113 so around 500-600 for receiver. 300 for subwoofer. Eventually I plan on doing 7.1 when I save up more so that's why I thought of that receiver.
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For speakers the cubic measure of a room is more helpful, and if the room is sealed or open to others. Makes a big difference as to the space the speakers have to fill. Just between an 8' ceiling and a 10' ceiling would be a significant difference for your floor dimensions, let alone how much more if open to other rooms.

You might also think about starting 3.0 with the same speaker budget, or putting a little more towards a better sub. Personally I'd steer you to Ascend's 170SE/200SEs for your 5 speakers, but 340SEs for just front 3. Both a little more than your budget but nice stuff. Can't listen to them until in home but they do offer 30 days trial if you'll pay return shipping...unless you can find someone to demo them in home (have you checked out the threads for folk here on the speaker and sub forums willing to demo their setups?).

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I agree as well. I wish they made towers rather than just bookshelves. Once we get our new house (hopefully next year), I will buy a new surround sound from HTD.

There is no need for towers if you have good subwoofers. Let the sub take care of the bass range. I think Hsu's speakers are really meant to compliment their subs, not vice versa the way it is with most speaker companies.
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I agree as well. I wish they made towers rather than just bookshelves. Once we get our new house (hopefully next year), I will buy a new surround sound from HTD.

While HTD does make tower speakers, do not under-estimate something like the Level Three bookshelf.
With a nice sub, it can produce some big loud sound, and handle a nice size room.

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I had read very good reviews about the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1

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I had read very good reviews about the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1

That enclosure design looks awfully familiar:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117405


My vote is you can have your incredible sound and your cash. Go down to your local Best Buy and compare the Pioneers to anything else they offer. You won't be disappointed.
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look familiar but build quality?eek.gif

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There is a lot of better options than the pioneer out there, Like the speakers already mentioned here or the one you listed.
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Pioneer SP-BS21-LR

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So we base speaker quality on dissections now? Have you heard them?
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I am intriuged by the HSU speakers a few of you have mentioned. They seem to have gotten really good reviews for bookshelf speakers. Whats interesting to me is that they only sell 1 kind of Bookshelf speakers and 1 kind of Center. However they have a ton of subwoofers they offer on their website. Maybe these are the ones to get? I'll have to look into it.
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If you're willing to go two bookshelf speakers, try www.ascendacoustics.com sierra-1's; they receive excellent reviews and don't come up on the used market very often at all--which is a great sign of quality and owner satisfaction smile.gif

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There is no need for towers if you have good subwoofers. Let the sub take care of the bass range. I think Hsu's speakers are really meant to compliment their subs, not vice versa the way it is with most speaker companies.

This is an issue for me since I do not like bookshelf speakers. I like tower speakers better because of looks and do not need a stand. It would do in-wall speakers rather than bookshelf. Thats the reason why I am buying all around towers now smile.gif.

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How did you take the grills off? I need to fix one of the grills from my BS21 since my son dropped it a week ago.

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Those Sierra 1's are a tad over my budget. It'd be hard for me to pair them up with a great center and surrounds down the road. Only place I saw them for sale was their web-site.
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Ascend is an internet-direct speaker company, so you wouldn't find them in a brick and mortar store. However, if you head over to the Ascend forum, you may be able to find someone who owns them near you and test them out. Inasmuch as surround sound is concerned, people often find it desirable to use the same speaker all the way around--which is what you can do with the Sierra's. I see you're not exactly interested in bookshelves, however--so that answers that smile.gif

www.aperionaudio.com has some towers - they're in your price range, and Aperion offers free two-way shipping and has an excellent reputation.

http://www.aperionaudio.com/speakers/intimus-family/intimus-4t-tower-speaker

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yes the Hsu have a very impressive sound for the price .
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Ascend is an internet-direct speaker company, so you wouldn't find them in a brick and mortar store. However, if you head over to the Ascend forum, you may be able to find someone who owns them near you and test them out. Inasmuch as surround sound is concerned, people often find it desirable to use the same speaker all the way around--which is what you can do with the Sierra's. I see you're not exactly interested in bookshelves, however--so that answers that smile.gif
www.aperionaudio.com has some towers - they're in your price range, and Aperion offers free two-way shipping and has an excellent reputation.
http://www.aperionaudio.com/speakers/intimus-family/intimus-4t-tower-speaker

Those towers would not be very good for anything loud. Not home theater speakers, IMO.
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I've got infinity Primus 360s here. They are excellent speakers.
I've not given them a listen: but the word far and wide is that the current crop of Pioneers is even better for the price.

I've listened to the HSU bookshelves. Impressive presence and volume; and there's a return policy (so you can try them at home).
If you wanted to go tower in this price: EMP also deserves consideration (and again, home trial).

For HT: I think I'd go HSU in this price range. For music it's a harder call.
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I didn't know that UPS delivered during the Holiday. They came at about 5 PM and delievered my Monitor 70 towers YAY biggrin.gif

Update: It's 2 AM, and I just unboxed both towers. I AM SO GLAD I WENT WITH THE POLKS. THEY LOOK AWESOME. Anyway, the speakers weren't damage at all, but the screen are cracked. The screen still usable, and you can't see the crack, but I know they are there and it is bugging the hell out of me. I've contacted newegg.com about it, and they told me what I knew already, which was to contact Polk Audio to replace the grills. I'll give them a call tomorrow.

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