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So my old Panasonic SA-HT05 finally gave up the ghost last night. The wife suggested getting a new system and wanted me to look into a Bose system. First thing I realized was that we couldn't even get there on our budget, but after reading many reviews and suggestions figured out that they seem to be way overpriced for what you get. So now I am looking at getting a system for around $700, might be able to stretch it to $800 with a little coaxing.

The problem with this is that unless it all comes in a box together, I have no idea what I should be getting and everything I have read says that you get your best bang for the buck by buying the pieces individually. So I am begging for the assistance off all you audiophiles here to help me get the best I can for my money. Thought this would be a good time to jump into this with Black Friday only being a little over a week away.

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what size room? and is this budget for speakers and a sub or just speakers and what will you be driving these speakers with

i'm so laid back,i'm laid out
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The room is about 15'x15'. We will be moving in the next year, and the room in that house will end up being about 20-25'x12-15'. Also, I will need everything, speakers, sub, and a receiver to drive them all. I did find a Yamaha RX-V571BL on clearance at a BB about an hour away from me for $149, but I am not sure if that would be the best piece to start my system with or not.
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Since I am new to this forum, was this the correct place for me to put this request? Would I be more likely to get a response in another section?
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in my opinion, you have the right idea by looking at best buy clearance and open box or display items. that is where i found some great deals too. look at best buy for the receiver and speakers, i would do an internet direct subwoofer though. here is my suggestion


Pioneer FS51 tower speakers - BB clearace for about $100 a pair
Pioneer C21 center speaker - BB clearance for about $50
Pioneer BS21 bookshelf speakers - BB clearance for $50 a pair if you want a 5.1 system, or two sets if you want a 7.1 system
Klipsch RW12D subwoofer - goes on sale on newegg.com regularly for $300

that leaves about $200 for the receiver of your choice.
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Thanks for the suggestions mgrotel. I checked for BBs around me, but no luck. Could have found a couple of them, but they were in separate stores well away from each other.
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The Yamaha 571 is not a bad start for$150.

Add this system to it for $650 and you've got a nice little $800 5.1 package.

http://www.emptek.com/PreSeason.php
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Thanks for the suggestions mgrotel. I checked for BBs around me, but no luck. Could have found a couple of them, but they were in separate stores well away from each other.

i went to about 5-6 different stores to piece mine together. deals are out there, but you may have to sacrifice some of the convenience factor to get them. good luck
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what size room? and is this budget for speakers and a sub or just speakers and what will you be driving these speakers with

He did say "complete". I would interpret that to mean an AVR, too.

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that EMP speaker set > way better that Pioneer Andrew jones > way better than Bose!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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You can get a set of NHT superzero 2.0 for 500 dollars- excellent 5.0, but then you would need a AVR and Subwoofer.

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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what size are the woofers on the EMP 5.1? and i mean the woofers on the shelf speakers, not the sub.
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i like my small paradigm cinema 90 setup i have in my living room right now.. doesnt compare to my bigger stuff in the theater room but is plenty lound and sounds great my living room is 13x24
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what size are the woofers on the EMP 5.1? and i mean the woofers on the shelf speakers, not the sub.

5.25"

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are those really going to be a better option than a full tower with 3 of the same size woofers like the pioneers?
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You'd have to listen to both to see what you like better. Speaker preference is very subjective. If you've got room for towers then get the Pioneers. Plus you can purchase locally and return if it doesn't meet your expectations.

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The Pioneers will hit lower, although I was not impressed with the quality of the low end- sounded muddled and not detailed (Pioneers spect suggest they can hit down to 47 hz, EMPs down to 60hz). wWth a sub, 60 hz is plenty low. I haven't heard the EMP bookshelves, but the the EMP-E5ti, with a similar EMP-made driver, is just really WAY better that the Pioneer tower speakers (more expensive, so not really a fair comparison). And the Pioneers are ugly...but all this is just my opinion!

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imo, it is silly to even compare any 5.25" driver with respect to frequencies below about 80hz because the speakers arenet designed for that, they are designed for midbass, imo. i would never ask any tower or shelf speaker with 5.25" drivers to play 40hz, let alone play it with good quality.

my pioneers sound awefully good crossed over at 80hz with a dual sub setup. but i tend to like their sound better than the harshness i hear from other speakers. its nice to be able to have it loud but not have it be hard on my ears. it is very easy to listen to them loud for an extended period of time. but like afro said, i guess at that point it is all very subjective.
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I for one will not compare the Phase 1 Pioneer speakers, to certain brand speakers. > However for me
and a lot of other owners, we consider the Pioneer phase 2 speakers a step up. I will not/do not, put the
phase 1 on equal terms with the phase 2. > For me, the Phase 2 have opened up more, and with better
detail and a bigger soundstage. They still will not jump out at you, however the new line has opened up
the presentation. ALso for the speaker size, they have good bass, that is tight and articulate.

It all comes down to preference, choice and taste - however, for me they have raised the bar, and hold
up well against some more main-stream popular brands. I will continue to reccomend them as a option.

I have owned many speakers with a so-call small 5-1/4 inch woofer - that performed overall better, than
a lot of 6-1/2 inch woofers.

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to each their own. i prefer the first pioneer series over the second series after seeing specs and listening to both personally. i suppose i am in the minority on this, but it is how i feel nonetheless.
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to each their own. i prefer the first pioneer series over the second series after seeing specs and listening to both personally. i suppose i am in the minority on this, but it is how i feel nonetheless.

It is all about, what brings you joy and pleasure.

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yep. if those Pioneer speakers sound good to you, and the price is right...not much else matters!

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interested to see what the top suggestion is!
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another option:

jamo 5.0 - $200 - http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/544351896
klipsch rw12d sub - $300
yamaha receiver - $150

total - $650
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Especially all the work done by Mgrotel. I would love to get that Klipsch RW12D sub, but it looks like it is priced $500 as of right now. I did just get an e-mail this morning that had a Polk CS2 Series 2 for $99, Polk Monitor 40 Series 2 for $110/Pair, and a Klipsch Synergy Sub-10 for $179. Was thinking about using those with the previously mentioned Yamaha receiver, but wasn't sure about it.

It would be
Polk CS2 - $100
Polk Monitor 40 (x4) - $220
Klipsch Sub - $180
Yamaha Receiver - $150

Total - $650

Another option that I have been leaning towards considering my total newbishness towards surround sound is the Onkyo HT-S9400THX for $730. More expensive, but it is 7.1. Also, I know it will all play nice together which I can't personally say about the other setup.
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Bumping this thread because my last post took 3 days to show up on here for some reason.
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When I was first looking for my setup, I was really close to getting that 9400 HTIB. While my research showed that to be the best HTIB package, I read that the speaker quality is not great. I'm very glad I decided to assemble individual pieces. But I also prefer tower speakers.
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