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What would you go with? Been kicking this around in my head all day
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http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/544351896
and a klipsch rw12d sub for 300$

just an idea

edit: get two of those subs for 600$ and the 5.0 for 200$. right on budget and should sound good imo
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2.1 in this budget range, or better yet, 2.0. It will sound way better than a 5.1 for the same price. Add a good sub later. Start out with some tower speakers with good bass extension. Does your budget include a receiver too?
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Depending on whether or not, you need a receiver - I would build in sections

HTD with their Level Three speakers, makes some nice stuff -
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers

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What would you go with? Been kicking this around in my head all day

What devices do you already have?

1. TV
2. cable/sat box
3. DVD/Blu Ray
4. Gaming devices (ps3, xbox, wii)
5. Receiver

Other questions
1. How big is the room
2. Any speaker size restrictions (wife, sig other only wants small satellites, no towers allowed)
3. What's the main use (movies, music, gaming)

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What devices do you already have?
1. TV- 52"" Samsung LCD
2. cable/sat box- direct tv hd receiver
3. DVD/Blu Ray
4. Gaming devices (ps3, xbox, wii)- PS3 (used as my blu ray player as well as games)
5. Receiver- no receiver would need to purchase
Other questions
1. How big is the room-- 12x17
2. Any speaker size restrictions (wife, sig other only wants small satellites, no towers allowed)
No speaker restrictions would love tower fronts


3. What's the main use (movies, music, gaming)[/quote] movies, and shooter games
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2.1 in this budget range, or better yet, 2.0. It will sound way better than a 5.1 for the same price. Add a good sub later. Start out with some tower speakers with good bass extension. Does your budget include a receiver too?

I'd even go 2.0 if everybody agrees that would be best ( looking at subs I see it looks that way if I got a decent one then the receiver I'd have little for my mains) and yes I'd need a receiver.

So what would you rec for a 2.0 with a receiver in this budget? Ill jus get a klipsche rw-12 when funds allow
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Here is a pair that would be great and leave some money for a receiver. I have to say though, I like the looks and specs of their big brother a lot more, but that won't leave you any money for a receiver. The Infinity Primus p363 can be had for $400 a pair, and if you have a Fry's near you, you can get them on sale for $110 fairly often. The EMP E5Ti can be had in your budget with some room for an AVR, but like the Arx speakers, I sure do like their big brother a lot more. I should also mention that Fry's sometimes has the Polk RTi towers for very good prices, so if you have a Fry's near you, it might benefit you to wait for black friday to see if they have a sale on them.

These are just a few suggestions. If you plan to build up your home theater and have patience, you might think about just getting a decent AVR and some bookshelf speakers for now,and then piece your system together as funds become available. This way you don't have to compromise on components as much. It will leave you with more money for a better receiver to start with.
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What devices do you already have?
1. TV- 52"" Samsung LCD
2. cable/sat box- direct tv hd receiver
3. DVD/Blu Ray
4. Gaming devices (ps3, xbox, wii)- PS3 (used as my blu ray player as well as games)
5. Receiver- no receiver would need to purchase
Other questions
1. How big is the room-- 12x17
2. Any speaker size restrictions (wife, sig other only wants small satellites, no towers allowed)
No speaker restrictions would love tower fronts
3. What's the main use (movies, music, gaming)
movies, and shooter games[/quote]

So is a receiver included in this $800 budget? If not how much extra are you willing to spend?

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Yes I'd need a receiver included in the $800
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You won't get better than this for the money, IMHO...if you want to go 5.1 right from the get go. $699.00 shipped, then you have to find a budget receiver.
http://www.emptek.com/PreSeason.php
2.1 would be the best bet, however.
2 Polk M70s, 299.00 shipped (watch New Egg for the 149.00/speaker sale)
The previous mentioned Klipsch sub
AV-r for ~200 dollars

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Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
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Yes I'd need a receiver included in the $800

Hey gritter, are you willing to live with bookshelf speakers for now? Do you intend to build up your system over time? f you can settle with bookshelf speakers for now, that will allow you to invest more heavily in a receiver which will benefit you more in the long run.
Here are some good speakers that can get your system started:
Hsu HB-1
Ascend CBM-179 se
HTD Level Three bookshelf speakers
Arx A1b Monitor
If you can do just a little bit of assembly yourself, I think some of these kits from parts express are well worth considering as well.

Each other those options cost just a bit over $300 for a pair of speakers. Take the remaining $500 in your budget, wait for black friday or cyber thursday, and get the best deal on a receiver that you can find. Use the AVSforum message boards like this one and the receivers forum to keep an eye out on great deals for AVRs. Also check out slickdeals.net and those types of websites for the best deals. I would keep a close on on newegg.com for those cyber thursday deals. Also see whats coming up on amazon.com's lightning deals. A $500 receiver will be better as a base for your system than a $300 receiver,it will be much less compromised regarding features and amplification, and your money will go a lot further on these thanksgiving deals than at any other time of the year.
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I'm in the same boat with the OP. I'm debating whether I should get the Polk M40 and CS3 to build a 3.0 or 3.1 setup. I'd settle for bookshelves. Not sure if I should invest more now and forget about the 5.1, or get a pair of lower model bookshelf speakers then upgrade later.

How much different the center can make if the system is mostly for movie?
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jsut get a receiver and bookshelves now, then when money allows, get 2 towers, a center, and a sub, and move the bookshelves to the rear. imo. or do that in a couple more phases.
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Always get the better quality, lesser amount. Quality over quantity...

You'll thank yourself in the long run, as it doesn't take too long to finish building the rest of your system.

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I'm in the same boat with the OP. I'm debating whether I should get the Polk M40 and CS3 to build a 3.0 or 3.1 setup. I'd settle for bookshelves. Not sure if I should invest more now and forget about the 5.1, or get a pair of lower model bookshelf speakers then upgrade later.
How much different the center can make if the system is mostly for movie?

The M60s are $100 ea at the moment. Could be a very good option to start with 2.0.

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I'm actually kinda jealous of the M60 deal right now. I love my pioneers but those M60s look nice, although I haven't heard them
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I'd rather have your Pioneers than those Polks, you don't have to be envious.
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I'd rather have your Pioneers than those Polks, you don't have to be envious.

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Really? What about the monitor 70s compared to my pioneers?
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You've gotta realize speaker preference is subjective. Some people will like the Pioneers better, others the Polks. You're not going to get a consensus. The Polks will definitely play louder with their higher sensitivity.

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I realize its all subjective, but I just like hearing others' opinions and preferences
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As long as it doesnt make you question your purchase then its fine....

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Not even close, 130$ for the 5.0 and I couldn't be happier
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Really? What about the monitor 70s compared to my pioneers?

There will always be some people, who will prefer other brand speakers over Pioneer.

One thing for sure, the Monitor 70 will win in the bass out-put. Other than that, my preference
is the Pioneer. Good subs can fill in the lower end. For me, Polk from the RTi series on down,
tend to sound more on the un-natural/artificial side > with an overall voicing to stand out and
draw attention to itself. However that does not guarantee that bigger and louder is better, or
that there is more detail and definition > and this can bring ear fatigue as time goes by. Even
bass that tends to be lacking in control with a boomy/mushy character, gives me ear fatigue.

It all comes down to you, and what floats your boat - the choice is yours.

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If you could get a pair of KEF iQ70s on clearance at around 600 for the pair, I woudl certainly go 2.0.
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If you could get a pair of KEF iQ70s on clearance at around 600 for the pair, I woudl certainly go 2.0.

The KEF iQ70's are a uniquely good speaker-for-the-money deal right now and would make for an excellent 2.0 or 2.1 setup. Because it's an end of life product there is one potential downside - if you want to upgrade to 5.1 down the road, finding a matching center could be difficult, or a tad expensive if you go with one of the new Q series centers. (Adding a sub or good surrounds wouldn't be a problem.)
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The KEF iQ70's are a uniquely good speaker-for-the-money deal right now and would make for an excellent 2.0 or 2.1 setup. Because it's an end of life product there is one potential downside - if you want to upgrade to 5.1 down the road, finding a matching center could be difficult, or a tad expensive if you go with one of the new Q series centers. (Adding a sub or good surrounds wouldn't be a problem.)
where do I get them for a decent price?
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