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Hi all,

This is my first post here and I'm kind of nervous I'll be shot for creating another "newbie needs help!" thread but I have to. I'm currently looking to setup a good 5.1 HT (eventually upgradable to 7.1) for music/movies/games. The split is something like this 60/10/30. I'm a huge fan of EDM and Rock, and throw in some OST's from Games and movies for some calming tunes and beautiful orchestras. Here's the problem though, the room I'll be setting up the HT in is my bedroom which is tiny. 1112.138158 cubic inches is all it has, 11'3"x11'9"x8'3&1/2" LxWxH. I understand I do not need a whole hell of a lot of power or powerful speakers for that matter but this will eventually all be moved into my basement once it's done for a nice HT, the basement is obviously much bigger.

So I need something that can stay clean and show all the nitty gritty good stuff from recordings at low volumes as well as high volumes. I want to have speakers that are clear crisp, yet feel moving with bass. I don't want anything too bright and tinny really as i have slightly sensitive ears, but i also don't want my bass to drown out all the notes coming from the mid and high frequencies. So far this is my list of what I'm looking at:

Receivers:
Sony STRDN 1030
Denon 3312CL
ONKYO 616/717/818

Speakers:

For fronts I like the idea of having a 3-way Floorstanding speaker set with a nice sub, but if floorstanders are a bit much for the room I can be persuaded to go with a solid pair of bookshelf speakers.

Fronts:
Polk RTI 8/10
Klipsch Heresy 2 (If i can find a cheap pair on Ebay)
Klipsch Forte 2 (again if I can find a nice pair on Ebay)
HSU HB-1 MK2
This is basically all I got right now. My max on Fronts total is around $500 USD. I want a 3.1 setup so I can have dialogue from movies and games coming from the center channel.

Center Channel:
Polk CSI5
HSU HC-1 MK2
I've been looking at polk a lot probably not the best idea to remain under one brand. Max willing to spend on a center is $250 although the center is not super necessary it is highly preferred.

Surrounds:
Polk FXIA4
Polk RTI3
HSU HB-1 MK2
I understand that Bi-pole/Di-pole is supposed to be better at dispersing sound and immersing you in the movie/game/music but I see they are more expensive so Bookshelves should do fine for a first HT

Subwoofer:
HSU STF-1
Outlaw M8
Polk PSW505
PA120
Acoustech H100
I know that the HSU and outlaw are basically the same exact sub, but the outlaw has a downfiring sub with a downfiring port as well, the hsu has a downfiring sub with a port on the back instead. Which bring up a question is it better to have a downfiring port? Does it even matter? Does it matter if the sub is downfiring? The max i'm willing to spend on a sub is $300

Any and all help is appreciated, but please don't come into a thread and bash on others for not liking a certain brand. State your business and be on with it. I need clear concise answers since i don't have the luxury of going out and testing speakers. Thanks again!
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What is your overall budget? Looks like you might be allocating a little too much to the receiver. Best bet is to spend more on the speakers.

And 8" sub like the Outlaw M8 or STF-1 would work well in a small bedroom like yours, but not a bigger room like your basement.

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My budget is around 1200-1400 USD total. I realized the 8" might not be enough for the basement so i was thinking of getting a 7.2 receiver, so maybe the extra sub can compensate for the lack of size of the driver? If not there's always time to get some cash and upgrade to a 12" for the basement and keep the two fronts and the 8" in my room.
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That's 1200-1400 for just the speakers/sub, right? The Denon 3312 would eat a lot of that budget. Based on your numbers, I don't see how you are including that.

An 8" sub can't keep up with a 12" in a large room. It would limit the 12".

Watch Outlaw's website for the next couple of weeks. Last year they ran the M8 on special for a really good price.

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If you go on ebay there's a 3312CL for like 600 bucks. So I was like that's an amazing deal. I think its factory refurbished that's why. So yeah, what do you think of the speakers though any other suggestions?
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The HSU's have a good reputation. 5.0 set of them would be a nice HT setup.

Here's another option. Kef is advertising they'll have the iQ70s and iQ10s on sale for Black Friday starting at midnight Thursday. They'll probably go fast. The hard part is finding the matching center, although you can buy the newer version iQ series to work with them.

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They already went LOL! Seems like they are good speakers if I could find them for 500 a pair somewhere but even ebay has em for 800...
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They already went LOL! Seems like they are good speakers if I could find them for 500 a pair somewhere but even ebay has em for 800...

Read more carefully. They won't be in stock until midnight Thursday.

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OH wow did not even see that, thanks I'll be looking into these ones. Any other suggestions even if it's just notable brand names?
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Here's another Black Friday special. These Focals would be an amazing deal for front left, right, center. Then you could watch for specials on getting Focal bookshelves for the rear:

http://www.accessories4less.com/index.php?page=brand&id=FOCAL

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If you want clean crisp sound check out deftech's new bookshelves...pair them with a sub and your good to go...;)they won't break the bank either.

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Damn those Focals are expensive but If they're 1.8k normal I can see them being well worth it in the long haul, but that limits my budget and forces me to get a 2.1 or 3.1 only which I'm certainly fine with right now as I could always upgrade.

Which new DefTechs? The SM65 55 PM1000?
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These Energy Vertias V6.2s are a good deal. Couple them with the Veritas V-5.2 center. Then the Veritas VS for the rear.

Ask in the Energy Owners Thread to learn more about them.

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fwiw, the focal towers and center $1000 if purchaced together and a preimer acoustics pa150 sub at acoustic sound design lists for $425 but if you make an offer of $375 they usually accept it this would make a great 3.1

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Here's another Black Friday special. These Focals would be an amazing deal for front left, right, center. Then you could watch for specials on getting Focal bookshelves for the rear:
http://www.accessories4less.com/index.php?page=brand&id=FOCAL

how do those compare at $1000 with the kef iq70s for $500 a pair with a matching center?

im eyeing those kefs on on black friday with a center for less than 1K, but willing to spend the 1K if the difference is significant

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how do those compare at $1000 with the kef iq70s for $500 a pair with a matching center?
im eyeing those kefs on on black friday with a center for less than 1K, but willing to spend the 1K if the difference is significant
fwiw, speaker sound is subjective and only you can be the judge of that. i really dont see you being disappointed in either choice if you can find the matching center for the kef's (kef iq 60c ) or you could purchace a third iq70 for center if you have the space

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