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I would like to find a center channel speaker for a cabinet that won't allow anything higher than 4 1/8" and 7" deep. The depth could be slightly more but would hang out over the edge which would not be an issue. My current center channel (Mirage MC-4) is sitting very low (below a table between me and my couch) in the cabinet and I am not happy with the sound. I have not found much in size and decent quality that can fit in there.
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http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-NS-C310BL-Bass-Reflex-Center-Speaker/dp/B001PZ674C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353777361&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha+ns-c310

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I had looked at the Yamaha. My concern was it's 6 ohms. I don't know much about that but from researching it didn't seem a good idea to put a 6ohm speaker on a receiver with 8 ohms. I don't know if my receiver can change ohms for just one channel. It's the Pioneer VSX -1121.
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you can mix 6 and 8 ohm speakers, I'm doing it now with one of my setups.

a bigger problem would be mixing different brands of speakers that dont sound alike.

What are your other front speakers? You might want consider going "phantom mode" with no center at all.

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My fronts are Proac Super Towers and rears are Proac extended base tablets. I tried and did not like the sound with the center gone.
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My fronts are Proac Super Towers and rears are Proac extended base tablets. I tried and did not like the sound with the center gone.

Can you fit a center stage bracket over your TV?
http://www.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/center_stage_bracket.html

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Can you fit a center stage bracket over your TV?
http://www.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/center_stage_bracket.html

Jim - what was the shelf you used to raise your TV?

Raising the TV was my solution - but I have a 65" TV so instead of a shelf I used this http://www.amazon.com/38-LED-LCD-Mounting-System/dp/B007T01G98/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1353743621&sr=8-16&keywords=Transdeco. It's essentially a wall mount on a floor-stand. I left the middle shelf off and put the floor-stand behind my current TV cabinet. The base of the floor-stand is less than 3" high so it fits under the TV cabinet.

It looks a bit pricey at first but kind of works out - a good tilting/rotating wall mount often costs $200 or more if you include the install, and it's still cheaper than a lot of new center speakers. The big pluses for me are I can easily move the TV or take the floor-stand/mount with me if I move, and it's height adjustable so when I get my perfect center I can put the TV at just-the-right height ; )
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Jim - what was the shelf you used to raise your TV?
Raising the TV was my solution

I do not need to raise my TV - However I would raise my TV, or use a center stage bracket,
to avoid mixing a Yamaha center speaker with Proac speakers.

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I do not need to raise my TV - However I would raise my TV, or use a center stage bracket,
to avoid mixing a Yamaha center speaker with Proac speakers.

Oops, I mis-remembered!

It was cel4145 in this thread - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1390240/get-your-tv-off-your-center-channel-with-this-stand. There are several options mentioned in that thread.
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Can you fit a center stage bracket over your TV?
http://www.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/center_stage_bracket.html
That's pretty cool. I never saw anything like that before. I think you have found my solution.
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That's pretty cool. I never saw anything like that before. I think you have found my solution.
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So do you get a Proac center channel to go with your other speakers?

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So do you get a Proac center channel to go with your other speakers?
No it's a Mirage MC-4. I am having 2nd thoughts on the bracket. It's only 6" deep which would require me also buying a new speaker plus the stand. And when I started thinking about how that's going to look on top of the TV I am not so sure I want to go that route. It also looks like it could be unstable. I would have to physically see one to really know.

So if anyone still knows of any 4 1/8" high center that's 8 ohms let me know.
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Polk TL2 center, 6 11/16" W x 4 1/4" H x 3 13/16" D
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Speaker-Center-Channel/dp/B0043M667M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1353808922&sr=8-3&keywords=polk+audio+center+channel

The problem is that a center only 4 1/8" tall probably has a max 3.5" driver size . And you still don't know how well it'll mate with your Proac towers.

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If you can make 4.8" work out - then look at KEF
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/KEFKHT6000CBLK/KEF-Kht6000c-Center-Channel-Speaker-In-Black-Each/1.html#!specifications

I would still explore some more, the center stage brackets.

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The Cambridge Audio S50 center is 4 5/8" high.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_779S50B/Cambridge-Audio-S50-Black.html?search=S50&skipvs=T#details-tab

oops - it's 8.5" deep ...
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Long shot different approach ... here are some flat-panel speakers. They are 5.5" high but only 1.5" thick, maybe mount them flush over the 4 1/8" hole/shelf?

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/KEFT301C/KEF-T-301C-2-1/2-Way-On-Wall-Home-Theater-Center-Speaker/1.html
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/KEFT101C/KEF-T-101C-2-Way-On-Wall-Home-Theater-Center-Speaker-Each/1.html
http://www.monitoraudiousa.com/products/shadow/shadow-centre/#/overview
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... I would still explore some more, the center stage brackets.

+ 1 FWIW I was facing a similar situation a few months ago. After a lot of searching I finally decided to alter my setup and create enough space for a decent center.
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