On wall surround speaker decision: Deftech (XTR-50s) or Axiom (M22s ,VP100) - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 08:03 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mmuha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Any advice appreciated.


Deftech (XTR-50s LCR, XTR20BP surrounds, SC4000 sub) OR Axiom (M22s LR, VP100 center, existing 100 watt sub)


Hey, newbie to the forum...I jumped on the deal Amazon is running on the Definitive Technology 3 XTR-50s, 2 XTR20BPs, and SC4000 sub for $2K. I'm getting second thoughts after reading about Axioms on wall offerings, specifically the M22's, M0 surrounds, and VP100 center. I like the natural wood look and frankly, using my existing sub, I can save around $1K.

Anyone have opinions on either setup?
mmuha is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 08:18 AM
AVS Special Member
 
gtpsuper24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,080
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 90
Well if you go with Axiom I would skip those little M0 speakers and go with the larger M2 or one of the QS models. Those M0's are very very tiny 3.25" woofers, they are really only good for a PC setup or a little bedroom setup. For on wall setup theres not much out there that I'm aware of. I've had Axioms and sold them and couldn't be happier afterwards but I have no experience with the on wall/inwall models.

You don't have to get a new subwoofer if you go with the Def Techs or Axioms. Subwoofers do not have to match the speakers. Any subwoofer can work with any speaker setup really its not an issue to use one brand of subwoofer and another brand of speakers.
gtpsuper24 is online now  
post #3 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 08:25 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mmuha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thanks for the reply.

As far as the sub, I have a 100 watt Polk I picked up cheap a couple years ago. The Def Tech package comes with the sub. Actually, the XTR-50's are $700 and they "throw" in the SC4000 and XTR20BP's for "Free". I tested the sub last night and wow, quite a bit of punch. We're talking existing 100 watt vs the def tech 1200 watt.

I've listened to the XTR's at a local dealer earlier this year and was impressed. The Axioms are sharp. Very different on wall tho, looks like they're ported.
mmuha is offline  
post #4 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 08:32 AM
AVS Special Member
 
gtpsuper24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,080
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 90
I forgot to add EMP makes some nice On-Wall speakers. And they would fit into your budget and might even be able to save alittle more compared to the others.
http://www.emptek.com/products.php
gtpsuper24 is online now  
post #5 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 08:43 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mmuha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thanks!

I like the EMP stuff. Newbie question, the on walls are listing at 6 ohms. I believe my receiver is 8 ohms. Problem?
mmuha is offline  
post #6 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 08:46 AM
AVS Special Member
 
gtpsuper24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,080
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 90
No, 6ohm shouldn't be an issue. Just about every receiver can handle 6ohm.
gtpsuper24 is online now  
post #7 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 08:51 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mmuha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Any thoughts on how the EMP on walls, (EW25, 35) stack up to the Def Tech XTR's??
mmuha is offline  
post #8 of 9 Old 11-27-2012, 07:52 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Billy p's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Markham,Ont
Posts: 1,226
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Liked: 144
Started with this...



switched to this



a few months later...back to something like this



if your starting from ground zero in/onwall will work ok...but if your used to a full range sound from a more traditional speaker than...I wouldn't recommend in/onwall as a starting point....YMMV...smile.gif

Old Indian proverb: We don't inherit the earth from our ancestors, but we borrow it from our children!

Ascend Acoustics Towers,STC(RAAL) & 200 SE in espresso54" of Panny BlissAnthem MRX 300,Sony BDP-S380, Technics CD player & Apple TV....

{ PSA XS30 SE in Cordovan Cherry}
Billy p is offline  
post #9 of 9 Old 11-30-2012, 03:06 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
mmuha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Question

I received the DeftTechs and hooked them up to my Pioneer VSX-1020 and they sound way different than in the store. My receiver is 85 w per channel, but at lower listening levels, the meat of the sound drops away and they sound tinny and hollow.

Do I need more watts for these guys?
mmuha is offline  
Reply Speakers

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off