Originally Posted by JerryLove
You might want to read the title of the thread again.
Except that they are not full range. That's a non-full range speaker sitting on top of a subwoofer.
Well. You went 62% over his budget.
I also disagree with your conclusion. I personally doubt you are even familiar with the speaker you are nay-saying; but to each their own.
The PT800 acutally bottoms out quite a bit earlier at 80Hz (SongtTower is 42), is -6db at that point (SongTower is -3).
Normally I would say this wasn't important, but 80Hz is shockingly high. It means you'll likely need to move the crossover point up to 100Hz. (I actually had to go pull down the manual because I found 80hz hard to believe)
You *will* need a subwoofer with these (yes, I am aware that you were recommending one), and integration will be fun.
It's an on-wall system; so not mounting it on the wall will result in baffle-diffraction problems, which BTW will bring you to -12db @80Hz (OTOH: a SongTower is not wall mountable, so that's an ergonomics preference)
The cabinet facade is... well, let's just say not up to the same standards.
But for only 62% more money we can buy a refurbished one.
How about this: Don't knock my recommendation to laud your own and, in return, I won't tear your recommendation apart.
I will admit that I forgot what his budget was...but
I did not advise just buying the PT800s but the PT800/PS1400 stacks. The stacks are full range. So your point they are not full range is completely invalid.
The PT800 are -6db @ 80. But when XO to a sub you still end up with a flat FR @ the XO point.
When stacked and the internal XO in the PS1400 is used, the XO is set to 130. Which is what Greg Timbers decided was the optimal XO point between the 8" mid-bass and sub drivers.
And I DO own 5 of the PT800s. So I do know what they can do. I have had them wall-mounted, mounted to subs, and sitting on bases. Greg Timbers knew what he was doing when he designed them.
These speakers are akin to the Revel Gem2, which I have also auditioned.
So you want to compare FR of the Songtowers to the PS stacks; ST to 42 htz, PS to 28 htz.
As for Nuance, I know people who have heard both the ST & PS and all have said the PS were better, in their opinions.
And these would be people who's opinions I value. And that said, I'm sure the ST are quite good.