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post #1 of 52 Old 12-02-2012, 11:38 PM - Thread Starter
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Hey everyone,

I have a Samsung 55" in my room and I wanted to get a home theater speaker setup going. I currently can spend about $800 dollars on the receiver + speaker setup. I am looking for a 5.1 speaker setup for a decent sized room, nothing too big. I receiver I want to get is the Yamaha Rx-V473 or 471. Some speakers I was looking at was the Polk Audio RM705 or Energy 5.1 Take Classic. If you guys had any other recommendations or custom setups please post below. Thanks so much and I appreciate the help.

Yamaha RX-V473 : http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V473-5-1-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B007JF85VU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354519773&sr=8-1&keywords=yamaha+473
Yamaha RX-V471BL : http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V471BL-5-1-Channel-Receiver-VERSION/dp/B004QR56R0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1354520173&sr=1-1&keywords=yamaha+471
Energy 5.1 Take Classic : http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Classic-Theater-System-Black/dp/B001202C44/ref=lp_3025451_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354520058&sr=1-1
Polk Audio RM705 : http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-RM705-Theater-System/dp/B000WGJX5A/ref=lp_3025451_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1354520058&sr=1-11
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$800 dollars for speakers and sub. is pretty low and hard to find something decent. I think the best thing for you to do would be to buy a 5.1 set up. Either Energy, Definitive Audio or something similar.

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Start with:

denon 1713
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR1713/DENON-AVR-1713-5.1ch-Networking-Receiver-w/AirPlay-3D-Ready/1.html

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add matching cs2 center speaker, surrounds (monitor 30s or 40s if you want to match the 70's) and sub as funds allow. I'd budget around $500 or so for a fairly nice sub, though you can get by with a few budget subs in the $200ish range (bic f12 and psw505 are commonly recommended).

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thats everyone. it doesnt have to be the world best setup. just something really good for games and movies. thanks jason i will look into it. do u like denon better than yamaha?
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and also one thing to note is that I dont have enuff room for the big floorstanding speakers so I will have to go with the regular satellite speakers. Any recommendations on which one to get?
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thats everyone. it doesnt have to be the world best setup. just something really good for games and movies. thanks jason i will look into it. do u like denon better than yamaha?

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and also one thing to note is that I dont have enuff room for the big floorstanding speakers so I will have to go with the regular satellite speakers. Any recommendations on which one to get?
Denon vs Yamaha vs Onkyo vs Marantz - in the end its mostly about preferences. Pick the one in your budget range that has the gadgets bells and whistles you are looking for.

When you say 'satellite' I (and most of the guys/gals here) think little tiny speakers with a single 3" driver in them. I'd almost rather use the tv speakers. Get something with at least a 5" woofer with tweeter - we call them bookshelf speakers. Coupled with a decent sub your setup will sound pretty good. How large a speaker can your room accommodate?

Amazon has the Infinity Primus 143 bookshelf speakers (get four) and matching center channel for a great price - right at $400. That leaves you $400 for a sub.

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and also one thing to note is that I dont have enuff room for the big floorstanding speakers so I will have to go with the regular satellite speakers. Any recommendations on which one to get?

Right now on Ebay you can get 4- Monitor 30 booskhelves, CS1 Center, and a PSW505 for $480. If you can find a used receiver fro $3-350, that will be right there around the $800 budget.

Buy the Denon 1713 that someone mentioned earlier for $320 and your right at your budget with a nice setup
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I've decided I will Go with the infinity speakers and center but what sub shud I get? Something good maybe around 200-400? What can u guys recommend?
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I'd say get the Klipsch RW12-D sub from newegg when it goes on sale(which seems to be every other week) for 300 bucks shipped. You'd be hard pressed to find better for the price.

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I've decided I will Go with the infinity speakers and center but what sub shud I get? Something good maybe around 200-400? What can u guys recommend?

My choice is Cadence CSX12 sub - and it will hit hard
http://www.cadencesound.com/products/CSX12-Mark-II.html

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/review-cadence-csx-12-mark-ii-subwoofer?page=0,2

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^^ Or that one. I looked it up but it is unavailable from their website and Amazon, but I do see it on ebay for 299 including shipping.

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thanks so much. i've decided on the Cadence sub and the Infinity speakers. the help is appreciated.
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thanks so much. i've decided on the Cadence sub and the Infinity speakers. the help is appreciated.

OK, have fun and enjoy.

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OK, have fun and enjoy.

thanks so much. my last question is that i know wiring is also very important to the quality of sound that you get. what wiring is best for the Infinity primus speakers above and an Yamaha V471?


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thanks so much. my last question is that i know wiring is also very important to the quality of sound that you get. what wiring is best for the Infinity primus speakers above and an Yamaha V471?


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There's a myth out there that expensive cables and wires greatly improve SQ. That's not true.

Get yourself some speaker wire and subwoofer cables from Monoprice:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239

To know what gauge wire you need for your speakers, consult the chart on this page (scroll down). You can always get a little bit lower gauge (thicker) wire if you want to.

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There's a myth out there that expensive cables and wires greatly improve SQ. That's not true.

Get yourself some speaker wire and subwoofer cables from Monoprice:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10236
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239

To know what gauge wire you need for your speakers, consult the chart on this page (scroll down). You can always get a little bit lower gauge (thicker) wire if you want to.

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Or thinner. With that set-up, you'll be fine using 16-gauge.

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and theyre banana plugs on the receiver. not sure on the speakers
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and theyre banana plugs on the receiver. not sure on the speakers

im guessing i have to get diff wiring for banana plugs? am i right? can someone who me same guage and stuff from monoprice but banana plug.

and can someone tell me if these are banana plugs.

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im guessing i have to get diff wiring for banana plugs? am i right? can someone who me same guage and stuff from monoprice but banana plug.

and can someone tell me if these are banana plugs.

..the picture shows..binding post..of an avr..you can use banana plugs...

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..the picture shows..binding post..of an avr..you can use banana plugs...
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any idea if the Infinity Primus are banana plugs as well?
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just ordered my Cadence subwoofer as well. Thanks so much guys!
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and theyre banana plugs on the receiver. not sure on the speakers

any idea if the Infinity Primus are banana plugs as well?

You need to get your terminology correct, you're confusing me and probably others.

Receivers and speakers have binding post terminals. Sample of binding post on a speaker.



Banana plugs look like this. You connect the speaker wire to the banana plug and then insert into the binding post.




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Plugs are nice if you plan on moving things around frequently and a bit easier to deal with on the back of you AVR. For the best and least expensive speaker connection just use the bare wire tightly twisted and then "bound" to the various posts with the provided screw down. Care that no stray strands escape and that polarity is consistent is all you really need with 16-14 gauge wire on this set up, The spooled wire from mono-price or the GE stuff on the Home Depot shelf will all sound awesome. The one exception is the sub, you need a single RCA connections on both ends, the above link is perfect. You should be very happy with this system, let us know how you like when its all setup.

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You need to get your terminology correct, you're confusing me and probably others.

Receivers and speakers have binding post terminals. Sample of binding post on a speaker.



Banana plugs look like this. You connect the speaker wire to the banana plug and then insert into the binding post.




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it looks like a banana plug goes in there. how would wire wrap around it?
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Plugs are nice if you plan on moving things around frequently and a bit easier to deal with on the back of you AVR. For the best and least expensive speaker connection just use the bare wire tightly twisted and then "bound" to the various posts with the provided screw down. Care that no stray strands escape and that polarity is consistent is all you really need with 16-14 gauge wire on this set up, The spooled wire from mono-price or the GE stuff on the Home Depot shelf will all sound awesome. The one exception is the sub, you need a single RCA connections on both ends, the above link is perfect. You should be very happy with this system, let us know how you like when its all setup.

yea i think i will go with 16guage. what is best and sounds the best way to attach wire to the speakers and center channel? banana plug?

and 16AWG Loud Speaker Cables means 16 gauge?
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and also which one of these is better?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023903&p_id=2793&seq=1&format=2

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http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023903&p_id=2823&seq=1&format=2

the second says thats its for in wall installation so not sure if it matters. thanks

The second is just for that, in-wall installation, to meet code. Not necessary for in-room runs of cable.

Not all binding posts accept banana plugs, those that do are often called 5-way binding posts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_post. The newer gear usually offers the 5way post but even some very good quality gear didn't always come with the 5-way thing (like my Carver 500 and 500t amps). 16AWG is 16 american wire gauge. Personally I use 14 for most everything I've got, buying in reels. I also that way have the same stuff for even the longest runs as well as shortest for aesthetics and consistency in determining connections. I install my own banana plugs and would recommend those with dual set screws inside the plug, rather than open screw types, to secure the wire like these http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Silverback-Banana-Plugs-Screw/dp/B005BT2KJE/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358490094&sr=1-9&keywords=banana+plugs+for+speakers

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I use the second one CL2 12 guage for my speaker runs. I then use Flextech sleeve cover, speaker wire pants and banana plugs to make my wires look nice. Like this:


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banana plugs are the best and insure the best quality?

and is gold plated better than the silver one in the above link?
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I use the second one CL2 12 guage for my speaker runs. I then use Flextech sleeve cover, speaker wire pants and banana plugs to make my wires look nice. Like this:


btw were did u get the flextech sleeve cover. cant find it anywhere
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