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post #1 of 12 Old 12-08-2012, 08:49 PM - Thread Starter
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I am willing to scour the forums for comparisons and recommendations but I am finding two problems with this method that waste a ton of time:

1-Reading older posts can get me all fired up for something only to find it is discontinued and no longer available for purchase(energy rc-10, energy s10.3).
2-Deciding on something I like but seeing that people were getting them for a significant discount that I just missed. I understand that sale prices expire, but it makes me think if I wait long enough they will come back to that price.

I admit I am very quick to hit the "start new thread" button, but sometimes timely information is alot more helpful than older discussions.

Anyway, after deciding to upgrade my old onkyo receiver to a new denon 1713 I am now putting my effort into speakers. At this point I am closing in on two options with similar cost, looking for some last minute input.

Used for 95% movies and gaming, 5% music. Max budget about $1000.

Option 1 (cheaper sub, more expensive front)
Front and surround - Cambridge s30
Center- Cambridge s50
Sub - Bic f12

Option 2 (cheaper front, more expensive sub)
Front and surround - Infinity p163
Center- Infinity p351(can i even pair this with 163's or is it made for the tower 363's?)
Sub- Hsu Vtf-1
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RW-12D for sub (because I'm biased). It'll run with more expensive subs and you can get your good speakers too. Snag one in the infinite newegg sale for 299.99. It's been compared with the Bic f12 and has been shown to go lower and louder.
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I was just reading about the rw-12d, and the more I think about it the vtf may be a bit more than I wanted to spend. I guess I should spend some time on the subwoofer page comparing stf-2 and the rw-12d. Not like it will matter a whole lot in the end, I am expecting to notice a pretty big difference with either one over my current parts express dayton 10 inch from 2005.
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Also, this Cadence sub measured 105 db at 25 hz.
http://www.cadencesound.com/products/CSX12-Mark-II.html

Also, it is around 122 db at 50 hz

Also, heavy at 67.25 lbs

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What you need to do is listen to 3-4 brands/models...decide which one or ones you would like to own and then just jump on the first real sale that comes up! Then don't look back, because another better sale will be coming!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
Set up #3: JBL130, JBL120C and Klipsch synergy sub
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Also, this Cadence sub measured 105 db at 25 hz.
http://www.cadencesound.com/products/CSX12-Mark-II.html
Also, it is around 122 db at 50 hz
Also, heavy at 67.25 lbs

Josh Ricci tested the CSX-15 MKII (the 15" inch version), and it only achieved 90db at 25hz. Plus it had rolled off 20db from 80hz to 25hz. In the same budget range, the Premier Acoustic subs seem to do better.

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Josh Ricci tested the CSX-15 MKII (the 15" inch version), and it only achieved 90db at 25hz. Plus it had rolled off 20db from 80hz to 25hz. In the same budget range, the Premier Acoustic subs seem to do better.

I do not favor the Cadence 15 inch - they did a better job with the 12 inch

I favor the 12 inch Cadence.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/review-cadence-csx-12-mark-ii-subwoofer?page=0,3

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getting very close to ordering the rw-12d. hard to ignore the 299 sale, and i don't want to wait to long and miss it. haven't seen one bad word about the stf-2 but in a room connected to an open dining room and kitchen i think the push from the extra power might be noticeable.
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getting very close to ordering the rw-12d. hard to ignore the 299 sale, and i don't want to wait to long and miss it. haven't seen one bad word about the stf-2 but in a room connected to an open dining room and kitchen i think the push from the extra power might be noticeable.

While I do favor the Cadence 12 inch over the Klipsch - the Klipsch is a good
option for your needs, and is a nice step up for you.

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id suggest that you look at the Hsu STF-2 and then also get a pair of Monitor Audio RX1s. For the money it will be an awesome setup.

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I do not favor the Cadence 15 inch - they did a better job with the 12 inch
I favor the 12 inch Cadence.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/review-cadence-csx-12-mark-ii-subwoofer?page=0,3

Based on Ricci's tests of the 15" version, I'd be hesitant to trust the S&V measurements. It doesn't make much sense that the CSX12 would have more output from 20hz to 63hz in comparison to it's 15" big brother. Something is screwy.

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Based on Ricci's tests of the 15" version, I'd be hesitant to trust the S&V measurements. It doesn't make much sense that the CSX12 would have more output from 20hz to 63hz in comparison to it's 15" big brother. Something is screwy.

That would be your deision not mine - I do not put all my eggs in Ricci's basket.smile.gif
I do not have a problem with Sound and Vision's measurments.smile.gif

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