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Hello all.

I am a COMPLETE n00b when it comes to home audio. I bought a HTiB many years ago, 8+ years, and am looking to upgrade. While I can appreciate high end equipment, I am in no way a Golden Ear, nor does my checkbook have unlimited resources wink.gif

This past summer, I upgraded my 720p Sony to an LG 55" 7600, and love the tv. But I know I am doing the picture injustice with the lack of quality audio.

What I am looking for is an inexpensive speaker recommendations. I am considering Pioneer SP-BS21's. But would consider alternatives in the same price range. I know newwegg runs deals on the Pioneers, put would consider Polk, Energy, and anything else that people have had a good experience with.

Naturally I need a quality receiver to drive the new speakers, everyone seems to have an opinion, I have heard good and bad about all the brands it seems, but I am considering a Denon 1612 from A4L. I also love the style of the Marantz slim line series.

Any help for this complete n00b would be great.
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You really need to set a budget- how much are you willing to spend on an av-rec and speakers?

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
Set up #3: JBL130, JBL120C and Klipsch synergy sub
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Basing it solely on the prices I have seen, The Pioneers for $40 a pair on sale from newegg, and from what I can tell a decent receiver at A4L, I am guessing I am in the $500 for the whole package. Obviously less would be better, and the option of buying surrounds at a later (a month or two later) and a sub (a month or two after that) is also a possibility.

I was looking at Onkyo's HTiB, but have read issues about Onkyo's quality and overheating issues.
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I am not a big fan of the pioneer speakers... But many on here do like them! Also, Polk monitors and the infinty primus line would give you a good system for in that same price range.
However, it makes no sense to get a decent/good receiver and then crappy speakers!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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Thanks for the tips on the Polk and Infinity speakers. I am looking for something decent, as much as I would love a $3k system, I just cant afford it. That being said, is it more important to get better speakers or a better receiver? Also, is there any brand of receivers I should stay away from? My guess is if I go middle of the line with a known name, that meets my needs, at least 4 HDMI ins, I should be good, or is there something that I am missing?
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Start with the Energy Take 5.1 system- there have been some unbelievable deals lately for the system. I helped a friend install a system with a previous model Denon receiver and for the price I was blown away with the sound. For your budget I'd look at the Denon 1912 or 1712- shop around for great deals since it is last year's model and many places are trying to get rid of it.

http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Classic-Theater-System-Black/dp/B001202C44/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355081105&sr=8-1&keywords=energy+take+5.1
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Good speakers can make a crappy receiver sound okay...but a high end receiver cannot make crappy speakers sound good! Spend the most money you can on speakers. A couple weeks ago the infinity primus p163 were 100/pr...get 2pair of those and the matching center or a 5 th speaker and that will be a nice set of 5 plus inch drivers!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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Good speakers can make a crappy receiver sound okay...but a high end receiver cannot make crappy speakers sound good! Spend the most money you can on speakers. A couple weeks ago the infinity primus p163 were 100/pr...get 2pair of those and the matching center or a 5 th speaker and that will be a nice set of 5 plus inch drivers!

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Dont bother with tiny satellites like the energy take 5. Piecing things together works best in the long run, as $500 for a complete setup will not get you very good results. The Denon 1612 from A4less is a good buy at $200. I would jump on 3 of these Boston HS225's for your lcr right now also.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSHS225MDNT/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-HS225-2-way-LCR-Speaker-Each-Black/1.html

You're definitely going to want a sub next, not sure how long it takes you to save up a few hundred but you can always jump on a Dayton Sub1200 to add some nice thump for cheap. You'll need to get into the $300+ range to really do better.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-629


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Dont bother with tiny satellites like the energy take 5. Piecing things together works best in the long run, as $500 for a complete setup will not get you very good results. The Denon 1612 from A4less is a good buy at $200. I would jump on 3 of these Boston HS225's for your lcr right now also.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSHS225MDNT/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-HS225-2-way-LCR-Speaker-Each-Black/1.html

The Boston speakers are a good option, and the Denon receiver.

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Thanks for the replies and advice. I thought shopping for a tv was bad, I have to say the audio end of it is much worse wink.gif but also a lot of fun.
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I think BIC speakers are the bang for buck leaders. The BIC DV62si should be at the top of any budget speaker list at $110/pair. At that price, I'm still amazed at what you get as for as component and sound quality goes.


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Dont bother with tiny satellites like the energy take 5. Piecing things together works best in the long run, as $500 for a complete setup will not get you very good results.

Kinda agree with this, but if you can find the Energy Take 5 without the sub for $120 (like Newegg recently had) that's a pretty slamming deal. $200 for the receiver, and then an F12 or PL-200 for a solid entry level subwoofer, and you'll have decent full range of sound. That's a pretty good starter system, and gives you time to save up for a good set of tower & center speakers later. And once you upgrade your front stage you can still use the Energy speakers for a 7.1 setup.
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Where do you live? I went from Polk monitor 50's and CS1 center to 70's and CS2. Wasn't satisfied with the sound so I wanted to try a horn loaded tweeter. Was going to go with Klipsch but was told that BIC's would out perform the Klipsch (dollar for dollar). For home theater only, the BIC's are way better IMO than the Polk audio. Music wise, the Polks are better. The BIC speakers to me seem to be lacking in the mid-bass.

I am looking at another setup though now. EMP E55ti with matching center and surround speakers. They are another bang for your buck setup but they look amazing and the people who own them seem to be very happy.

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I have a question along the same lines I currently have bp 10s for right and left and a pro center 2000 for a center all powered by a denon 2112. I'm looking for satellites to finish the 7.1 system. and I'm not sure how much money I need to spend on the satellites. I've been told that the satellites do not need to be at the same grade at the front and center speakers. I have no idea my room would fit small satellites better then bigger speakers but don't want to sacrifice sound for aesthetics . last question is with the two bp10 do I need a sub ? thanks for any advice.
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I live in New Jersey

Wrong side of the country. Was going to offer to demo them for you.

What was your budget again?

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I'm thinking my budget would be around $500, based on A4L refurb prices. I would rather buy decent equipment a little at time, then having buyers remorse.
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Man do I miss the old Audio King/Ultimate Electronics program. They had a deal where you could buy speakers then return them within a year for 100% credit towards new speakers as long as you spent 25% more each time and you still had the packaging. If you lost the packaging or failed to upgrade in the year then those were the speakers you were left with (I think those were the details anyway) I did that for 4 years and finally had something I wanted. It was awesome, but I couldn't figure out how that worked for them financially which I'm sure is why they stopped doing it :-).

Would be the perfect choice here!

Anyway as many have said. Personally I'd just buy 2 spearkers and the Denon receiver and then plan on adding a center, sub and surround down the road. Think of the line you are working with. Maybe your initial fronts are ultimately your surrounds.... Just an idea.

My theater build isn't going slow, I'm just pacing myself until technology catches up with me.


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Many users have liked the Energy Take 5 system because of the price point and the capable sound at this price point. Along those lines, here is an entry level system from Monoprice. They first launched and $84 system and now have a higher up 5.1 system ($250): http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10906&cs_id=1090601&p_id=9774&seq=1&format=2

It's the 9774. I have never used these but I think they got pretty good press (mostly positive) for putting out a low priced 5.1 system that does not suck as much as other home theater in a box? Hope that is something that you can consider too.
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I do love monoprice...all my cables come from them.
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