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Hello Im in need of a new upgrade and I am looking for help. I have things picked out but would like your thoughts and or changes.

What I have now

Receiver: Pioneer vsx 516 - 100 x 7 watts
Floor standing Speakers: KLH 92509 - 10-250 Watts, 28-20 HZ
Rear Speakers: KLH 2503 - 1-60 watts
Surround sound side speakers: KLH 687 - no watts listed
Center: Pioneer s-hf11c - 100 watts, 55-20 hr, 85 db
Bass: Sony sa-wm250, 100 watts, 28-200 hz

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Blu_Ray Player: OPPO 103



What I was looking at:

Receiver: Denon AVR-2113CI - 95 x 7 watts or Pioneer - VSX-1122-K - 90 x 7 watts at 20hz, 120 x 7 watts at 1 khz, 165 x 7 watts 1 khz @ 6ohm
Floor standing Speakers: polk tsi400 - 20-200 watts, 34hz-25khz, 91 db
Rear Speakers: polk t15 - 20-100 watts, 60hz-25khz , 89db
Surround sound side speakers: none maybe buy another set of above
Center: polk CS10 - 20-125 watts, 53hz-25khz, 91db
Bass: polk psw110 - 200 watts , 32-250hz





Im not sure on receiver seems as the reviews on both are just mediocre with the denon having hdmi issues

I want to up grade not down grade so would like each component to be better the what I have now

I know you can easily replace the speakers I have KLH....I do like the floor speakers though they give good low end and I would like to try and keep the low end on the floor speakers. I was looking at other brands like energy. the floor speakers have the same states but cost 50$ more each and is only 2 x 5-1/4" compared to the polk at 3 x 5-1/4" speakers.

Im no expert and this is way I ask for help I need to stay in the limit

right now with a few components bought from amazon it would cost $1500 at best buy would be $1800.......

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I do not think the Polk speakers you are considering are that much of an upgrade in terms of sound quality. They could even be a step in the wrong direction.

The PSW110 Subwoofer in particular is too small; you need a 12" subwoofer with a MINIMUM of 300 RMS watts. I suggest the Klipsch SUB12HG, which Amazon has for $300. The Klipsch RW12D is even better, for around $400.

I suggest the following for the main speakers:

A pair of Wharfedale Diamond 10.3 speakers and a Wharfdale 10CC center speaker; around $900 total. These front speakers will give you good performance down to 40-50 Hz, and the subwoofer should be set to operate from 50 Hz on down. You can get them from Music Direct or other dealers.

The rear speakers are not that critical; you can just use what you have. 95% of your sound quality is dependent on the front 3 speakers and the subwoofer, and that is where the money needs to go. You can always upgrade the rear speakers at a later date if desired, and they need not be too expensive.
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What size is your room? Is this mostly used for home theater, or do you listen to a lot of 2 channel music?
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my room is 10 x 18 and its just for movies ...again I can t spend no more than 2000k for the whole set up ....ps I highly doubt that the polk speakers are worst then The 12 year old KLH bookshelf speakers i have that cost 50$ for all 4 lol and the fronts are pretty muddy sounding I need clarity with out loosing the low end im used too

Also i like the Klipsch SUB12HG but my father owned over 3 of them and after about a year on each the amps would die in that time frame so I dont want to buy some thing and only last a year I want to get 10 years out of the system like the one I have now I had over 10 years

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SYSTEM:

Two Whafedale Diamond 10.4 speakers; $799/pair

One Wharfedale Diamond 10CC speaker; $249

One Klipsch RW12D subwoofer; $379 ( or Velodyne wConnect 10 subwoofer - $399)

One Onkyo TX-NR616 receiver; $399

Two Polk Monitor 30 speakers; $140

TOTAL SYSTEM PRICE = $1966

This system will be quite nice; about 10 steps up the ladder from what you have now...lol!

It should put a big smile on your face when you hear it.

Enjoy!

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HTD Level Three - towers and center
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers

HTD Level Two for surrounds
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers

Even the Level Two towers and center, can handle that room.
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers

Cadence 12 inch subwoofer
http://www.cadencesound.com/products/CSX12-Mark-II.html

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I am more of a bass guy, I would personally go with the Level III bookshelves and matching center ($500), the Level 2 surrounds ($200) and the Outlaw subon sale for $500:
http://outlawaudio.com/products/lfm1plus.html

That leaves you plenty for a receiver, speaker stands, wiring, etc.

If you are willing to wait a few months, you could get some ARX towers, matching center, and bookshelves with the above subwoofer as well and have plenty left over:
http://www.theaudioinsider.com/manufacturers.php?mPath=13&

I would also look into Ascendacosutics.com. The 340's are a solid choice for your frot three.
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that set up looks nice ...1200 for the fronts rears and center 650 for receiver...but only 150 left for sub...the sub you picked as well looks nice...plus tax on all that its gonna be 100 to 150 over budget but I will def look in to it....

Have you any experience with this set up.

My concerns are the depth of the rear speakers are 10" I cant put up stands so I will have to build a shelf for each. My seating area is at the wall

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that set up looks nice ...1200 for the fronts rears and center 650 for receiver...but only 150 left for sub...the sub you picked as well looks nice...plus tax on all that its gonna be 100 to 150 over budget but I will def look in to it....
Have you any experience with this set up.
My concerns are the depth of the rear speakers are 10" I cant put up stands so I will have to build a shelf for each. My seating area is at the wall

I have experience with HTD speakers, they have a nice overall balance sound,
with good detail and defintion - not edgy or sharp and have some good bass.

No experience with Cadence - however, the measurements are good for the price.
It should really hit hard in a 10 x 18 room.

From Sound and Vision > Bass output, subwoofer (CEA-2010 standard)

• Ultra-low bass (20-31.5 Hz) average: 103.2 dB

20 Hz:
91.3 dB

25 Hz:
105.4 dB

31.5 Hz:
113.1 dB

• Low bass (40-63 Hz) average: 121.5 dB

40 Hz:
117.2 dB

50 Hz:
121.9 dB

63 Hz:
125.6 dB

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/review-cadence-csx-12-mark-ii-subwoofer?page=0,2

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My concerns are the depth of the rear speakers are 10" I cant put up stands so I will have to build a shelf for each. My seating area is at the wall

If your seating is against the back wall, I wouldn't recommend using surround rears as the benefit will be very minimal since you can't place them optimally. You would probably be better off using the final two speakers as wides or heights and getting the receiver with the best support for those channels (I really like DTS Neo:X with wides and heights).

Edit:
Used the correct name for the Neo.
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I hear the ones i have now fro the rear as the speakers are at ear height if i get brackets I prob can tilt them down
with the 7.1 i have set up when i watch a movie i take the other 2 speakers and place them on the side of the seating area at head level lol

and the seating area is about 2.5 feet to 3 feet from the wall but when im not sitting it gets pushed back...and that when it would look weird...but if i put the speakers up higher and tilt i think it could work

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