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crammit's Avatar crammit 06:23 PM 05-10-2014

Yeah, I know that issues with the company should be mentioned as they would about a restaurant or anything.  But this thread is for a particular speaker, or dish.  So I think the bulk of issue posts, business plans people come up with, and they are many. should be in a Tekton thread, not a Pendragon one.  I vented...thanks.  Now...

 

Thanks for the lowdown on their sound.  (And that link with the JTR's.)  Being I'm not a golden ear at all and very happy with that ignorance, I'm looking for a good set of full rangers.  Two speakers for movies and music - more music....no sats or subs...down to 20's or near it.....boom......done. 

 

I'd considered vintage - Celestion Ditton 66's - tough to get a hold of and have delicate tweeters, Klipsch Cornerhorns - I won't have the right room, some DCM Timewindows, the RSL Elan, VMPS, etc., but decided i'd prefer a new or newer speaker that's well available and needs nothing done.  Considered DefTechs and Golden Ear, but heard side firing woofers can be a bit sloppy.  (Not sure I believe that.)  Honestly, I really would prefer those woofers point straight at me.  :)  Call me old school. 

 

The low range is not so much for movies, although that's a bonus, but for rock, techno, and more so classical organ works.  (Life is short - I want it all.  It doesn't have to be perfect.)  Should confuse the neighbors...an added bonus.

 

The Pens really seem to cover the most territory the best for the price.  But any recommendations or comments on any of these speakers or others are really welcome.  I'll be sticking with a $2500 budget, since the Pens set the bar there.  While you guys might be impressed or just like a certain speaker, I've been listening to Cerwin D-5's, JBL L36's with a bad refoam job, heard some Maggies...1.6 I think...once or twice.  So whatever I settle on...

 

I'm going to be jello.  Just totalled.

 

Really looking forward to that.

 

PS.  Any woman that may appear in my life will have to just deal, (famous last.) 



smurraybhm's Avatar smurraybhm 06:59 PM 05-10-2014
If you think Pens set the bar at $2500 then you haven't done your homework or need grills. Hopefully that woman that enters your life isn't a cat lover smile.gif
crammit's Avatar crammit 09:41 PM 05-10-2014

2nd thought, I heard foil is good anti-claw remedy.  I have one pair of cat proof Celestions.  Cat proof as in the grills are already done in by previous ones.  ;) 


audiosavant's Avatar audiosavant 10:22 PM 05-10-2014
I actually had (yet another) experience where my Pendragons slayed some higher end offerings. The speakers were Vandersteen 7s with over a hundred grand worth of Ayre amplification.

My Pendragons basically destroyed those speakers sonic-wise! The Vandies were... Not. Even. Close. And I usually love Vandersteens! The Vandies sounded dry, small and very un-engaging. A very etched, clinical presentation. I thought the Treos sounded much better than the 7s yet my Pens easily bettered them. Could it have been the amplification? The room? The digital front end? Don't know, but my system sounds much, much more impressive and "high end".

Now, the room with the Magnepan 20.7s sounded a lot like my system. Rich, vivid and very big. Mine has more dynamics and "slam", but the Maggies were a close match sound-wise to my set-up. Maybe a tad more elegant in the layering of musical textures and detail. They definitely threw a little higher soundstage, but they should, 'cause they're like freakin' 20 feet tall!

Anyway, I would love to play around with those Vandersteen 7s to see if they were set-up improperly or something, but I can tell you with all honesty, my speakers sound better. I plan on taking my wife to hear them. It will blow her mind how much our system hangs with the "big boys".

Nothing makes you feel better about your speakers than finding that, not only do they hold their own against speakers over 50k, they actually better them. biggrin.gif

I feel very, very proud and fortunate!

So yeah, here's another non-negative post here very much in favor of the Tekton Pendragon....


crammit's Avatar crammit 10:30 PM 05-10-2014

that red is pretty cool looking...


audiosavant's Avatar audiosavant 11:00 PM 05-10-2014
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that red is pretty cool looking...

I love 'em! smile.gif

Although truthfully, I ordered it in this color because this is considered a "standard" color (Ferrari Red). I was worried I might not like them and you can only return non-custom colors/veneers. I played it somewhat safe but did not want the standard black box.

If I had known how incredible they were, I might have ordered them in something really far-out color wise. Still might. I'm thinking of getting a pair of Lores for a SET system.

But yeah, they look really sharp and are quite the attention grabber...They look much more impressive in person than any photo I've seen.
crammit's Avatar crammit 10:55 PM 05-11-2014

I can imagine.  Very cool the variation of colors and veneers available, granted I'm not sure how many there are.  They aren't on the site except some photos.  But it's great because they're pretty huge.  That big, you should have choice in colors and veneers.  Very smart on Eric's part...extremely practical.


crammit's Avatar crammit 01:11 PM 05-14-2014

Would you mind giving a bit of a review on these?  There are posts on that I'm sure, but they're buried in 60 pages of other things.  Very hard to find.  I'm sure people researching will go to the last page of this thread trying to find info on the sound of them.  I know I'd like to hear (more) how they perform on certain/different musics, movies, with certain equipment, etc.  Of course, this is only if you care to talk about them and have done any real listening.  ;)


toshane's Avatar toshane 07:44 PM 05-20-2014
The latest two sets of speakers that Eric posted in his blog for sale all have the grills. Now the question is whether there is no more foam grills, and he finally provides the real grills when you choose the grill options during the online order? Can someone confirm? thanks.
zackie2's Avatar zackie2 11:56 AM 05-23-2014
Ok , everyoneI have not said to much on here but I read A lot. It seems everyone is still bashing tekton. I know some people have had problem,s and i am not on Eric,s side but I have a set- of m-lores 5.1. and they sound great and yep no grills yet. But I do think all the bashing if any should come from people who own them. Not people who just don,t have anything better to do with their life than to sit on a forum all day and bash when you have not even listened to them. I have had my speakers for over a year and i love them from what I understand they have speakers box,ed and ready to ship. If you don,t want to do business with them then fine there are other people who make speakers, I had a great exp with eric when I bought mine.. Have a great day
jbrown15's Avatar jbrown15 05:43 PM 05-23-2014
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Ok , everyoneI have not said to much on here but I read A lot. It seems everyone is still bashing tekton. I know some people have had problem,s and i am not on Eric,s side but I have a set- of m-lores 5.1. and they sound great and yep no grills yet. But I do think all the bashing if any should come from people who own them. Not people who just don,t have anything better to do with their life than to sit on a forum all day and bash when you have not even listened to them. I have had my speakers for over a year and i love them from what I understand they have speakers box,ed and ready to ship. If you don,t want to do business with them then fine there are other people who make speakers, I had a great exp with eric when I bought mine.. Have a great day

So you've had your speakers for over a year now and still don't have any grills? Has Eric gotten back to you at all as to when you might have these grills? Or has he just forgotten about you? Posting that kind of info is just as helpful as saying that your speakers sound great, so that any potential owners know what they are getting into.
chalugadp's Avatar chalugadp 08:22 PM 05-23-2014
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Ok , everyoneI have not said to much on here but I read A lot. It seems everyone is still bashing tekton. I know some people have had problem,s and i am not on Eric,s side but I have a set- of m-lores 5.1. and they sound great and yep no grills yet. But I do think all the bashing if any should come from people who own them. Not people who just don,t have anything better to do with their life than to sit on a forum all day and bash when you have not even listened to them. I have had my speakers for over a year and i love them from what I understand they have speakers box,ed and ready to ship. If you don,t want to do business with them then fine there are other people who make speakers, I had a great exp with eric when I bought mine.. Have a great day

Here you go zackie,
I had tekton oriel 10 for almost a year. They were very good but at higher SPL over 95dbs the tweeter would start to distort. When watching movies at reference or you invite buddies over to listen cranked and the sound was compressed. If you kept it under 95dbs it was fine.

For the last six months I have went diy and they can play at 105dbs clean. Also with waveguide they are more dynamic for movies. Movies is my main priority. I think the tektons are better for music. For the price and if you go commercial the tektons are good.

Service for me was so so. Took 10 weeks, and forgot to put tekton label on one speaker . several emails and never got the other label. Sold them. His production times are very poor. How can I say ? Cuz for the last three months I have been building speakers. If I had his shop and three people helping me, the lead time would be a week.
Foggy1's Avatar Foggy1 06:34 AM 07-10-2014
Enzos should hit Michigan on Friday, wish me luck
zackie2's Avatar zackie2 11:47 AM 07-14-2014
Hi , Everyone Still have my M -lores Still love them but let me say This I have Had second Thought,s Not About my speakers I love Them. But I have contacted Eric about The grill,s not that I realy need Them but to the Fact I have been Told They were coming. Now it,s been well over a year Now it Has came to the point that I am now getting no-reply from Tekton. Which I realy don,t like to just not reply to me That is what realy rub,s me the wrong way. I am not looking for speakers right now but I know I will down the road. Sorry but they will not be from Tekton
imcloud's Avatar imcloud 06:08 PM 07-14-2014
I have a set of lores, with grilles, the grilles took 6 months to get, lol, but the speakers sound good, I power them with a tube amp {used to use a black magic but switched to a jolida with a little more power, may put the carver back in the system in the future}. Eric seems to sell more speakers than he can build so I guess enough people ignore the production of grilles issue. I know when I was buying my speakers he had all kinds of personal problems, none of which should have been shared with a customer on the other side of the country, but I understand hardships and was over all happy with my purchase....

My attorneys office has a set of Pendragons in the waiting room with a tiny 3 or 5 watt tube amp and they sounded good {first tekton speaker I ever heard}, but they didnt have grills, lol...
jbrown15's Avatar jbrown15 06:48 PM 07-14-2014
I guess that part that I find totally ridiculous is exactly what zackie2 posted, Erik get's your money and once he has that its basically a crap shoot as to whether or not you'll get your grills. I still say there's absolutely no excuse for that no matter how great the speakers sound.
Foggy1's Avatar Foggy1 05:25 PM 07-18-2014
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I guess that part that I find totally ridiculous is exactly what zackie2 posted, Erik get's your money and once he has that its basically a crap shoot as to whether or not you'll get your grills. I still say there's absolutely no excuse for that no matter how great the speakers sound.
Have you listened to any Tekton speakers?
jbrown15's Avatar jbrown15 05:43 PM 07-18-2014
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Have you listened to any Tekton speakers?

Was considering buying some Pendragon's before I got my JTR's until I read about all of the horror stories with deliveries and grills. So I stayed well away, a local forum member around me had some though but has since sold his and moved on.
Foggy1's Avatar Foggy1 07:12 AM 07-19-2014
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Was considering buying some Pendragon's before I got my JTR's until I read about all of the horror stories with deliveries and grills. So I stayed well away, a local forum member around me had some though but has since sold his and moved on.
Have not listened to JTR's but my Tekton Enzo's are really sweet
stuart1967 02:26 PM 10-02-2014
Well, after reading most of the posts on this subject, Ithought I’d give my own experience.

I was looking for replacements for my Acoustic Energy AElite3 floor standing speakers. Acoustic energy is a British company (not widelyknown in the US) who make some fine speakers for sensible money, but I felt Ineeded something with a bit more headroom and dynamic capability.

I came across Tekton speakers a short time ago and becameintrigued by their Pendragon model. I am looking at upgrading to a high endvalve amp in the not too distant future, so the Pendragon was ticking a lot ofboxes.

Of course shelling out the best part of $3000 on speakersyou have not auditioned could be a tough sell, but the increasing numbers ofoutstanding reviews, made me give it serious consideration. The ability to customizepaint color and finish as well as some internal components was also a bigattraction.

After mulling it over, I decided to just do it. 4 weekslater and my speakers arrived, beautifully packaged and in perfect condition.After unpacking the boxes, I couldn’t find the grills I had ordered and startedto worry about some of the similar reports I’d heard on this forum about noshow of grills. However, 10 minutes later, a second fedex van showed up with athird box….containing the grills!

So, 4 weeks from order to delivery. In view of the custompaint finish and upgraded clarity caps, I don’t see how it could have beenbetter. Eric at Tekton was a pleasure to deal with by phone and by email…..veryeasy and helpful throughout.

So…on to the speakers.

Man, they are huge! Don’t be fooled by the publisheddimensions….nothing will prepare you for the sheer size of these monsters! I’mlucky that I have a decent sized listening room. However, if you are spacelimited….maybe the smaller models will be more appropriate. Just don’tunder-estimate the scale of these things! The photos you see don’t do themjustice.

I’ve only had 24 hrs with the speakers so far, but already I’vebeen blown away. There’s the obvious scale and dynamic impact, but already I’veseen the softer side of these speakers. They do scale very well. I waslistening to a lot of different kinds of music last night and definitely heardthings I hadn’t fully appreciated before. I’m an amateur musician and play 6string bass guitar, so I tend to listen to music from a different perspectivethan a casual listener. I tend to pick out different instruments at differentperiods in a track…these speakers really make that more accessible. I’ve heardsome reviewers saying that these speakers disappear. To be honest, I thoughtthat was BS! However, I have to admit it, they were right. I was listening to afew tracks last night where the singer appeared to be right in the middle spacebetween the speakers, and different instruments spaced where you would expectin a live setting. You do feel as though you are sitting in the audience of alive performance. My AE’s were great budget floor standers, but you alwaysheard the music as conveyed through a box….constrained somehow. The Pendragonsrelease the music in a way I have never heard before.

I know that these speakers will only get better over thecoming months, so I can only imagine how good they are going to be.

With my upgrades to paint and finish, clarity caps andgrills, my total cost was just shy of $3000 delivered. This is still a lot ofmoney in relative terms for most people, but for speakers of this quality, itreally must be bargain of the century! I was considering other big name speakersin the $5-7k price range and auditioned a few of them. None of them cameanywhere near the scale and range of the Tekton’s, and none matched the visualimpact.

A friend of mine dropped in last night on the way home fromwork. He is a multi-channel kind of guy and he was shocked by the sound comingfrom these speakers. He couldn’t articulate what he was hearing. He left stillscratching his head!

I probably have a bit more work to do with positioning. Sofar they are approx. 9ft apart, 18 inches from the back wall and with amoderate toe in. The sound is incredible so far, but I will see how muchtweaking is necessary.



So….my experience with these speakers although limited hasbeen extremely positive. Many of the earlier posts in this forum were extremelynegative, mainly concerning delivery times or the absence of grills that hadbeen paid for. I cannot comment on those experiences, but I’m glad I wasn’tswayed by them. As it stands, I have a pair of the best speakers I have everheard for a fraction of the cost of the competitors (if that’s the appropriateterm?) For me, the added benefit is that these speakers are custom made by aguy who clearly has a passion for his craft. He also clearly knows what he isdoing….on paper, these speakers shouldn’t really work, but work they do….amazingly.
stuart1967 02:29 PM 10-02-2014
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The latest two sets of speakers that Eric posted in his blog for sale all have the grills. Now the question is whether there is no more foam grills, and he finally provides the real grills when you choose the grill options during the online order? Can someone confirm? thanks.
I can confirm that Grills for Tekton Pendragon are proper wood frames with fabric facing. At least those I received Oct 2014
stuart1967 02:41 PM 10-02-2014
The New Tekton Pendragons in 1955 Ford Thunderbird Blue.

You can see my 40 " tall Acoustic Energy speakers as a size comparison!
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Nabs17's Avatar Nabs17 02:50 PM 10-02-2014
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The New Tekton Pendragons in 1955 Ford Thunderbird Blue.

You can see my 40 " tall Acoustic Energy speakers as a size comparison!
Never seen speakers that color before.....I think I like them.
stuart1967 02:55 PM 10-02-2014
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Never seen speakers that color before.....I think I like them.
It was a risk,,,,but they do look amazing. I saw a 1955 Ford Thunderbird in that color and thought...I need speakers like that!
mizzoufan2001's Avatar mizzoufan2001 08:55 PM 10-02-2014
How about reviews on the Enzo? Anybody done a head to head of Enzo vs the Lore or perhaps Enzo vs the Pendragon? The Pendragon is just too big so I am looking smaller. Does the Enzo have the same sound as the Pendragon?...less some bass of course. My room is big 21 x 31 x 8 so I am thinking the Enzo would be the better choice than the Lore.
stuart1967 11:28 AM 10-03-2014
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How about reviews on the Enzo? Anybody done a head to head of Enzo vs the Lore or perhaps Enzo vs the Pendragon? The Pendragon is just too big so I am looking smaller. Does the Enzo have the same sound as the Pendragon?...less some bass of course. My room is big 21 x 31 x 8 so I am thinking the Enzo would be the better choice than the Lore.
I haven't heard the Enzo's, but think they would have been my second choice. Difficult to decide between those and Seas Pendragon, but the Enzo's are quite a bit smaller, so if you were space limited, the Enzo's would probably be the best choice. They'll still be pretty dynamic I would imagine. Plus you can get a choice of veneers so could look even higher end.

I don't think you could go wrong with any of the Tekton speakers. I might get a set of m-Lore's for my dining room. I have a little fat-man valve amp in there and they might do nicely.
stuart1967 11:29 AM 10-03-2014
Short video clip of the Pendragons

You Tube

elvistehebeagle's Avatar elvistehebeagle 04:25 AM 10-04-2014
My "handle was [elvisthebeagle). In March 2013 I came to this site after reading a review from Andrew Robinson, and Mojo about some fantastic loudspeakers . I have money, but I am not wealthy. I have owned Altecs of the 1970's and the top line Def Techs, I was tired of buying "big boom" speakers with limited detail. I came to this site for advice. I had ordered the Pendragon 5.0 (no subs) system Red. Amp was a Pioneer SC-27 now a 67. Almost all I got back was how this site is for "professionals", "engineers" that could write and understand the complex dynamics of Loudspeakers. These people were some of the greatest legends of our time in their own minds. I received no help, only criticism for any question or opinion I posted. SO WHY IN THE HELL DO YOU GUYS INVITE ME BACK? YOU E-MAILED ME. Here is my take on Tekton, Eric, and the Pengragon line. For the money there is not one loudspeaker system that can touch it. I don't think you can spend 5X the money and do better. If Eric says: " 5-8 weeks" that means "8-10 months". Forget the grills. I AM VERY HAPPY THAT I WAITED, FAIR TRADE, TIME FOR QUALITY. I live in a condo, thats why I held off on the subs. Eric said he was working on something that would be "just right" for me. That turned out to be the "Enzo Sub". At first that speakers were amazing compared to the Def Techs. I used a pair of def tech Subs with them. I wrote the Eric to me was like going back in time and meeting Leo Fender. Eric is my "Guru". Eric was going to change the industry. A true Hi-FI loudspeaker that the "masses" could afford. Only catch, the wait. I'm sorry for the "cry babies" that canceled. 6 Months ago, Eric sent me my Enzo Sub. No grills of course. MY system is perfect in the sense that I do not even need to run the "set up" from McMACC Pioneer. I am just running it "Pure Direct". "Breath Taking"! I don't write this rag because it is a " I am so brilliant" mirror. Write something and think that you sound so "GREAT". I'm busy enjoying my system. I have a ways to go. Better Amp. Pioneer Elite, calling it and the Company "garbage" would be kind. Need better cables. That's it. Eric wants to build speakers, not grills. A flaw. SO WHAT! For the money, Nothing on this planet will touch these. Eric is a Loudspeaker genius. Eric has a lot of pressure. Eric can be moody. Eric IS VERY HONEST! He just can't tell time. He wants so badly to " share his products with the world" that he sometimes bites off more that he can chew. In the end, Eric is extremely honest with the flaw of predicting production time. Last is, all the "experts" that "know everything" in this chat room. One is "****". I think he believes that he built the Apollo Moon lander. He knows everything. My only question to him is why not build your own loudspeaker and show us all how it is done? Show Eric. Tekton Pendragon 5.1 with the Enzo Sub has allowed me to have an "top notch" audiophile's system. All this thanks to Eric and his "personality flaws". Thank you very much Eric. You are a great friend to have in the industry. Without you, I would be listening to Golden Ear or more Made In China Garbage. Elvisthebeagle.
ptalar's Avatar ptalar 08:24 PM 12-04-2014
I ordered a pair of Pendragons on Friday 11/28 with grills and they arrived in perfect condition on Tuesday 12/2 with grills. They were the standard black Pendragons with the stock capacitor. They replaced an old set of Bose 701 Series II speakers, which were not bad sounding. The main speaker replacements were the final part of a 4 year Home Theater upgrade. The Pendragons were chosen based on a number of positive articles and owner comments.


So far, I have been quite pleased with the Pendragons. They are quite an improvement over the Bose Speakers. I have been running the speakers all day for the past couple of days with all kinds of music and home theater movie tracks. They appear to get warmer/smoother sounding as they break in. They are full bodied speakers in their output. I have an SVS Subwoofer, the PB12/plus 2 (two 12 inch subs in one box) and I have had to turn down the gain on the subs to work with the Pendragons. Using a sound pressure meter I have retweaked all the speaker output levels (I have a 7.1 system) to be consistent with the Pendragons and the results have been quite impressive. I have no regrets. The speakers are big but I have the room in my Home Theater room. I am getting use to the size, not a big deal.
syd7890's Avatar syd7890 03:36 PM 12-11-2014
Has anyone heard both the Pendragon and the tux1099...I would love to hear some comparisons.
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