Originally Posted by michaelthemutt
I was elvisthebeagle and something happened to my "handle". I was minding my own business and was asked to "chime in". I have tossed my Pioneer SC-67 in the garbage. I said to the garbage can that I was "sorry" to toss something that is worst than garbage in its "can". Pioneer in the last 10 years has let their products side below horrible. The construction and cheap jacks are not strong enough to hold up the new stiff and heavy duty cables being used today. I had a SC-07, Dead. Then a SC-27, Dead. Now the SC-67 is acting up and Best Buy with Pioneer will not or are unable to address the problems. I'm done.
The upside is I bought a Emotiva XPA-5 for $888.00 and a Marantz AV-7701 refurb off of Amazon for about $ 900.00. Now I have lower lows and higher highs not to mention increased detail. I bought the AV 7701 because I have a 4K TV and even the very new AV's do not have the correct 4k copy protection hardware. HDCP2.2 is going to cause a lot of frustration to those of us who demand to "own" our copy of the 4K content. 4K Blu ray is due out late 2015 and a lot of people are going to find out that HDMI 2.0 and 1.4b pass thru won't allow 4k Blu ray to play. So, I bought something to hold me over till Marantz get the specs worked out.
NO, I do not have measurements on my sound. NO, I do not pretend to have a degree from MIT. ALSO, I DO NOT "CUT AND PASTE" OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS IN A LAME ATTEMPT TO LOOK LIKE A "AUDIO GURU". My Pendragons are far better that my old DEF TECH's series BP2000 and remind me of my old "Voice of the theater" Loudspeakers from Altec Lansing that needed a pallet jack to move them. I will say this now as I said before that for the money I have not heard of anything that comes close as a HI-FI and Home theater system. I do not include these kits that I am now seeing on the form. They are for people with true wood working skills and some true audio back round. Those people have my upmost respect. Not the "cut and paste" and "I am the know it all of everything" peeps. For those "peeps" I will repeat my self and say that if you are so smart then "put your name" on one of your masterpieces and sell them for millions of dollars and then I will see some credibility.
Eric even with his problem of "telling what month this is" is a great Loudspeaker designer and builder. I don't need pictures, graphs and a oscilloscope to tell me that my system sounds great all day long. What really blows me away is the Atmos" and the add more "tiny cheap" speakers peeps. Eric's cabinets are a major part of what makes them so great. They are big and fill the room with sound. Adding more speakers would be over kill unless your have a real movie theater in your house. If you do then you afford a $100,000.00 down payment on a real system. My whole system is under $7000.00. TV is $2000.00. All I know is I have a great system for my investment.
My measuring stick is looking at Audiogon or Ebay and almost never seeing Tekton speakers for sale. I do see plenty of B&W, Klipsch , Def Techs for sale that are in the same price range. Zu, seems to get sold often. I have never bought anything in audio / video without seeing or hearing. I read three reviews and then talked to Eric. I took a Leap of faith. I am so happy that I did. I am a Tekton Pendragon owner from May 2013. I recommend to those shopping to invest in "separate Amps and AV processors". The Receivers and I mean all of them are way under powered. They may list 150 watts per channel that is really with only two channels driven and for a one second "burst of power". In reality they are around 70 to 80 watts of power. They use the cheapest components and charge the most money. If you see a deal it is because it most likely is outdated HDMI and or audio Specs. A good amp almost never changes. Then just swap out the AV processor. Good Amps for the money and seem to work well with these loudspeakers to name a few are Outlaw, Emotiva and Crown. To all of you happy Tekton owners I say; " Isn't life great" and to the cut and paste " audio legends in their own minds" I say; "get a life". I'm evisthebeagle, and you're not.
I know you love your loud speakers but man, you need to break up your posts a little so that they are easily to read instead of looking like one massive paragraph. I kind of did it for you when I quoted your post so that you can see what I mean, it just makes it much easier to read. I'm not too sure of what to make of your post, are you ranting about electronics, raving about your speakers or putting down every other speaker besides Tekton?
Firstly your right, measurements aren't everything but they do give you a good idea of what's going on with the speaker and it's still a good idea to measure them. You should pick up a UMIK-1, download REW (its free) and give it a try, it'll help you understand what you're hearing and how the speakers are interacting with your room. And at the end of the day you could even end up improving how your Pendragon's sound with a few little tricks that you'll pick up on from knowing how your speakers and subs are interacting with the room.
You point about not seeing them for sale all the time and that's why they are such an awesome speaker is really just your opinion. The fact of the matter is that they do indeed pop up for sale from time to time, I think the biggest thing is that Tekton is a small company so it's not like they are pumping out thousands and thousands of speakers like all of the big brand names that you mentioned. I will agree that keep receivers will have a lot less power then that though.
I also don't really agree with what you're saying about the AVR's, Sound and Vision does a pretty good job of bench testing the power AVR's put out. They give you a 2-channel power rating and a 5-channel rating and also provide the THD at 0.1% and 1.0% with real wattage power. Most of the decent receivers will actually put out some good power, just take a look at a nice AVR like the Denon AVR-4520. For 5-channels driven you get 121wpc @ 0.1% THD. That's enough power to push more decent rated sensitivity speakers to reference levels, which is insanely loud.
I think it's awesome that you really love your Pendragon's but I'm not really sure what to make of your post? Do you have some pictures you could share of your speakers and room? I'd love to see some. Which generation Emotive XPA-5 did you get?