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On order...

I ordered a pair of Pendragon 'speakers this Monday and I'm looking forward to them. I did the grey metallic paint, Mundorf caps, Cardas posts, and no grilles.

This will be the third pair of speakers I've purchased from Eric (81en and Lore-S being the others). Once they arrive and I have them set up, I'll look forward to posting a user review of the speakers and my experience.

I'm making this post (and my future review) with trepidation as I've sworn off audio forums for a while now. I used to be very active on head-fi. I've now read this entire thread...and I wish I could have some of that time back. It seems several members here expressed legitimate concern over "newbies" posting rave reviews and then disappearing. Feel free to check my post count and feedback at head-fi and my feedback on Audiogon (all under indydieselnut).

The intention of these posts is simply to add my perspective to this mix. My assumption is that anyone who happens upon this thread legitimately desiring solid information about the Pendragon speakers and Tekton as a company will be quickly dissuaded from both purchasing the speakers and ever speaking about their decision here. Both are unfortunate.

I've been involved in hi-fi as an enthusiast for the past twenty years. While I had some wonderful interactions and learned a great deal from my time on the forums, the signal-to-noise ratio deteriorated enough for me that I gave up...perhaps to my own detriment.

When the Pendragon 'speakers arrive, they will be driven by a Bryston 4B-SST2 amp, Benchmark DAC2 HGC, Yamaha CD-2100, Linn LP12, and Bottlehead Eros (heavily modified). Given my past experience with Eric's products, my expectations are very high.

I'm not sure what the post count requirement is to post pictures, but I will certainly do so if I am able. My new listening space should be a good match for these speakers as there is plenty of room to breath.

My thanks to those who have read this far. I hope my future comments can be of real value in this discussion of the Pendragon 'speakers.

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I ordered a pair of Pendragon 'speakers this Monday and I'm looking forward to them. I did the grey metallic paint, Mundorf caps, Cardas posts, and no grilles.

This will be the third pair of speakers I've purchased from Eric (81en and Lore-S being the others). Once they arrive and I have them set up, I'll look forward to posting a user review of the speakers and my experience.

I'm making this post (and my future review) with trepidation as I've sworn off audio forums for a while now. I used to be very active on head-fi. I've now read this entire thread...and I wish I could have some of that time back. It seems several members here expressed legitimate concern over "newbies" posting rave reviews and then disappearing. Feel free to check my post count and feedback at head-fi and my feedback on Audiogon (all under indydieselnut).

The intention of these posts is simply to add my perspective to this mix. My assumption is that anyone who happens upon this thread legitimately desiring solid information about the Pendragon speakers and Tekton as a company will be quickly dissuaded from both purchasing the speakers and ever speaking about their decision here. Both are unfortunate.

I've been involved in hi-fi as an enthusiast for the past twenty years. While I had some wonderful interactions and learned a great deal from my time on the forums, the signal-to-noise ratio deteriorated enough for me that I gave up...perhaps to my own detriment.

When the Pendragon 'speakers arrive, they will be driven by a Bryston 4B-SST2 amp, Benchmark DAC2 HGC, Yamaha CD-2100, Linn LP12, and Bottlehead Eros (heavily modified). Given my past experience with Eric's products, my expectations are very high.

I'm not sure what the post count requirement is to post pictures, but I will certainly do so if I am able. My new listening space should be a good match for these speakers as there is plenty of room to breath.

My thanks to those who have read this far. I hope my future comments can be of real value in this discussion of the Pendragon 'speakers.
That bryston amp is sweet. Any review on any speaker with a person with less then 5 posts is suspicious. Especially when they only post once in a thread. When it arrives take some pics and post them. It takes 20 minutes to post in other threads a dozen times.(for you to be able to post pics)

Then post impressions of the speaker initially. Then after a week or so post some detailed impressions referencing specific songs. If people ask questions or comment on your posts answer them. That would be a good review and respected.
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I'll do my best...

...to follow your recommendations. Cheers.

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I'm one of the first few owners of the Pens along with a Pen center and m-Lore surrounds. This was long before the Enzo or Seas. I am quite happy with the set up but am wondering about the decision you made to go with Pens and not the Enzo XL or SEAS with a sub. Just wondering what technical considerations crossed your mind
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I'm one of the first few owners of the Pens along with a Pen center and m-Lore surrounds. This was long before the Enzo or Seas. I am quite happy with the set up but am wondering about the decision you made to go with Pens and not the Enzo XL or SEAS with a sub. Just wondering what technical considerations crossed your mind
Your setup sounds amazing! I've had my eye on the Pens since the very beginning but never had the space. I recently moved, and my new "listening room" is actually a large, walled off section of our basement. It is about 40' long and starts out at 17' and opens up to 21' wide for most of its length.

As far as technical considerations, I really wanted to try and get back to a "fun" speaker. I've had some serious audio burn-out in the recent past. I churned through Tekton 81en, Lore-S, Harbeth C7, Harbeth P3, Blumenstein Orca, Aperion Verus Grand (as part of a theater), Salk HT2-TL, and Salk SILK. This is over the past 8 years. Part of the churning came from indecision in my family about moving. We would commit to moving, I'd sell gear, we wouldn't move, I'd buy gear, we'd commit to moving, etc. Now that we're moved and the rest of my system is "set", I just wanted to get a speaker that would put a smile on my face when I listened to music. I've never had much success integrating a sub into my music-only system, so something mostly full-range was needed. I have plenty of space and no WAF considerations in my basement, so a pair of giant monkey-coffins will work just fine :-)

The final consideration is one that might be slightly voodoo; I just wanted to go back to a paper-cone driver. I realize the Enzo has the same driver, but I really wanted that little bit of extra extension from the Pen.

Perhaps a longer answer than you wanted?

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You'll be VERY happy with the purchase. I have a 20x20 living room with an open floor plan so really 20x50. I like the Pens toed in for an equal lateral triangle listening position. I also found that an aura lex subdude from Sweetwater works really well on a hard floor. I just posted a picture on the Tekton Website, check it out!
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I ordered a pair of Pendragon 'speakers this Monday and I'm looking forward to them. I did the grey metallic paint, Mundorf caps, Cardas posts, and no grilles.
Curious if the Pens have arrived and are setup in your room. They just might be next on my audition list.
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Curious if the Pens have arrived and are setup in your room. They just might be next on my audition list.
I received shipping notification today; probably puts them delivered next Monday.

It's worth noting they were shipped six working days after I placed my order - impressive turnaround!

I also ordered some outriggers for them; might play around with them. Looking forward to hearing these giants!!

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You'll be VERY happy with the purchase. I have a 20x20 living room with an open floor plan so really 20x50. I like the Pens toed in for an equal lateral triangle listening position. I also found that an aura lex subdude from Sweetwater works really well on a hard floor. I just posted a picture on the Tekton Website, check it out!
Bpack; thanks for the encouragement! Your setup sounds amazing...I'll go check out the picture.

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I received shipping notification today; probably puts them delivered next Monday.

It's worth noting they were shipped six working days after I placed my order - impressive turnaround!

I also ordered some outriggers for them; might play around with them. Looking forward to hearing these giants!!

Curious as to which outriggers did you order? Looking forward to hearing your impressions.
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Curious as to which outriggers did you order? Looking forward to hearing your impressions.
The outriggers I ordered were from "Soundocity"...I didn't look too hard for options as those seemed to do the trick. My experience with inserts in MDF is that they are not very robust. Any shearing force or repeated tightening and loosening tends to work the insert right out of the cabinet. Although the larger footprint with the outriggers will be nice, my primary purpose was to use the outriggers to "set it and forget it" in terms of the inserts in the cabinet.

As a bonus, the threads at the ends of the outriggers are 1/4-20, and I have a set of the uber-fancy Track Audio spikes with that thread that I used to dress up a platform I don't have any more. It will but fun to put those to good use!

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They're here!

The Pendragons arrived yesterday via FedEx and the unboxing went smoothly yesterday evening. I had this same paint job on my Lore-S speakers so I knew what to expect...but I wasn't prepared for how BIG these are! Everyone says that about the Pendragons, but they are truly large speakers. I was able to handle everything by myself, but it would be nice to have two people.

I hooked them up to the rest of the chain:

Linn Sondek LP12
Modified Bottlehead Eros phono pre
Yamaha CD-2100
Benchmark DAC2 HGC
Bryston 4BSST2
Furman 15pfi

I ran channel identification and started listening. If memory serves, here was my short listening session:

Sarah Jarosz "Come on up to the House"
Time For Three "Sundays"
Haydn C-major cello concerto (Bylsma, Tafelmusik)
Daft Punk "Doin' It Right"
Bon Iver "Woods"
Mumford & Sons cover of "The Boxer"

Initial impressions are positive. "The Boxer" really highlighted both the imaging capabilities and the dynamic immediacy of the high-sensitivity design.

That's it for now...I'll report back once I have more time with them. The outriggers will show up next week so I'll have a chance to see if they make any improvement apart from physical stability.
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Ordered my Pendragons about three weeks ago. Eric shipped same day with grills. Great guy to deal with. They arrived a few days later by FEDEX. They sound great. Not happy with my Emotiva original XPA-5(Gen1) with UMC-200 processor. Connected my older UMC-1 processor.Then installed a Crown XLS1500. The Crown seems to be a big improvement. The bass veil that I thought was due to my room is apparently an amplifier phenomenon. I've owned and built many amplifiers and preamplifiers. My backup last resort Pioneer VSX-822 has a more open and dynamic preamp. I've ordered a refurb Marantz NR1403 for a preamp which should arrive in a couple of days. Since I'm back to stereo only, it should be ok. Will post more when I get it set up.

Add 5/5/2015: Received the Marantz NR1403. As preamp to the Crown XLS1500 - human voice, violins, and musical instruments in general, are more well defined and more natural. Opera chorus is really good, even via satellite receiver. As preamp to the Emotiva XPA-5, generally a bit better. But still not as well controlled/crisp as with the Crown. Decided not to get the XPA-5Gen2.

Returned the Marantz the next day (only has left and right pre-outs) to order the Marantz SR6008, which has 7.1 pre-outs,switching signal out, and many other control features. The NR1403 was $230 refurb. The SR6008 $500 refurb (a $1200 unit new) and 40 bucks for a 3-year warranty. From Accessories4Less - a no-brainer decision. Nice to order at 10AM and see it on the road with FEDEX by 7pm same day. Could have gotten several models of surround processors with similar deals. I should be receiving the new unit day after tomorrow.Would prefer to go straight stereo preamp, but I need the HDMI switching for all of my input sources.

The Pendragons sound really good but I think they'll be still better with the new electronics. My room is 18x25 ft.,8ft. ceiling. Listening 11 ft. from speakers. The speakers are about 14-18 inches from the wall and their orientation is sensitive in my listening room. Finally have them both facing in the same direction about 10-20 degrees off straight out.

Add 5/12/2015: Now that I've done some more listening, I have some info to pass along. The large Pendragons are, indeed, as advertised. They sound simply great ... on all types of music and movies. I've used the following equipment setups with them:

1. Emotiva XPA-5 with: Emotiva UMC-1 and with, UMC-200 - clean sound, not as good with micro-dynamics or with instrumental or vocal character as might bewished for. Bass not as tight as one would wish. With Marantz 1403 -more musical but still loose bass - same with Marantz SR6008 as pre-amp.

2. Crown XLS1500 with: Emotiva processor/preamps above -same results as above except greatly improved bass and transient performance. With Marantz 1403 -same as above but, again, with greatly improved bass and transient response. With Marantz SR6008 as preamp - really clean and clear - great definition and instrumental character.

3. The Marantz SR6800 is very good as a preamp or as an AVR. But I much prefer the Crown XLS1500 power amp.

Speakers tested at home: Large Pendragons, LSA-2, HSU VTF-15 sub-satellite, JBL 800 series, BIC EV-15, Triangle Plaisir.
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Update

...just a quick update. I have only been in my new space for a few months and it is proving to be an especially challenging acoustic. However, the Pendragons are proving to be fantastic speakers in the areas of frequency extension, musicality, and simply being "alive". I have never owned a full-range speaker that was this sensitive, and I'm amazing by what a difference it makes in microdynamic swings - just the small mezzo-forte to forte transitions that help differentiate live from reproduced music.

For me, the biggest challenge will be the room. I am working on speaker placement right now. In my "previous life", I was a devoted headphone guy. If I can't tame the room a little bit, I might be going back!

Despite the room, I can endorse the Pendragons as living up to their reputation.

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New Pens

Just ordered some pendragons w/ clarity caps and custom audi nardo grey paint. I currently have a vinnie rossie LIO integrated and a very underrated pioneer plx 1000 direct drive table. The speakers that the pens should be replacing are Zu Audio Soul MKII's.

I live in Southern Utah and Erik was kind enough to offer to drop of the speakers on his way to vegas next week.

Stay Tuned
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Just ordered some pendragons w/ clarity caps and custom audi nardo grey paint. I currently have a vinnie rossie LIO integrated and a very underrated pioneer plx 1000 direct drive table. The speakers that the pens should be replacing are Zu Audio Soul MKII's.

I live in Southern Utah and Erik was kind enough to offer to drop of the speakers on his way to vegas next week.

Stay Tuned
Please let us know your impressions of the Pens compared to the ZU Soul IIs.

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Question Thoughts before I pull the trigger? (And any news on a Lore Mini Monitor review?)

I'm about to pull the trigger on behalf of my dad to replace a current Athena setup.

What I had in mind was:

Front - Lore Reference
Center - Pendragon Center
Sides - Mini Lore
Rear - Mini Lore Monitors

Any word on the Lore Mini Monitor? I've heard of no reviews...

For the fronts I'm also considering the Lore V2.0 and the Lore. Between the Reference, V2.0 and Lore there are $100 between each of them. I was considering the V2.0 and Lore so that the 10" would match the 10" center.

My dad is getting this covered under an insurance claim for a break-in. Is this Tekton setup a wise choice and are my speaker choices in line with under $4K budget? For reference, I cannot go to a Enzo or above, so please don't recommend that path. I'm saving some budget for a sub...

Either way, this is a massive upgrade from what he had, but I chose to do the Mini Lore for the sides instead of replacing stands and bookshelf speakers.

It's all subjective I know, but would this be an alright setup? Don't worry about the subwoofer...

Thanks in advance!

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