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post #1 of 19 Old 12-20-2012, 11:39 AM - Thread Starter
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I have a new Denon AVR-1712 that will be paired with Ascend Acoustic CBM-170 SEs (8 ohms), most likely. I'm setting up a 2.1 or 3.1 system so wire run length will be under 10 feet for each speaker. I think I will be fine with 14 AWG speaker wire from Monoprice. For banana plugs I was looking at these: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2801&seq=1&format=2

With the above I'm all set then?

P.S. Do any of you use these for connecting to the speakers: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2944&seq=1&format=2

P.P.S. I've been reading some more on speaker wires and plugs and there's been comments that the Monoprice banana plugs suck. Are there better alternatives that are affordable?
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Those are as good as any, but keep in mind that plugs aren't necessary, and do no better job of attaching the wires than just feeding them though the binding posts.

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I have a new Denon AVR-1712 that will be paired with Ascend Acoustic CBM-170 SEs (8 ohms), most likely. I'm setting up a 2.1 or 3.1 system so wire run length will be under 10 feet for each speaker. I think I will be fine with 14 AWG speaker wire from Monoprice. For banana plugs I was looking at these: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2801&seq=1&format=2
With the above I'm all set then?
P.S. Do any of you use these for connecting to the speakers: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2944&seq=1&format=2
P.P.S. I've been reading some more on speaker wires and plugs and there's been comments that the Monoprice banana plugs suck. Are there better alternatives that are affordable?

14awg from Monoprice will be fine. If you're going to put techflex on them and make them look all purty...buy the in-wall speaker wire. I just got 100' of their 12awg in-wall and it's very nice. They never seem to fail me with great stuff at great prices

For plugs...I've heard quite a bit of negativity towards Monoprice's banana plugs. I went with Sewell Deadbolts (from Amazon) and love them. Very nice looking and secure. Just like the much loved, but much more expensive GLS and Monster plugs.

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Banana plugs are a great convenience item. I purchased "dual-screw" plugs similar to the one in the pic below from a Hong Kong vendor a few years ago. Great price, quick shipping...and I've never had an issue with them. smile.gif

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Search Amazon for GLS Banana plugs. Higher quality than the monoprice and not too expensive IMO
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Search Amazon for GLS Banana plugs. Higher quality than the monoprice and not too expensive IMO

Is there really any difference between the $50 for 20 GLS "safe connect (gen 4)" plugs and the $25 for 24 Sewell Deadbolts?

Serious question...thought maybe you've used both. Just wondering. I like my Sewell's

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Search Amazon for GLS Banana plugs. Higher quality than the monoprice and not too expensive IMO

Yeah, I saw the GLS banana plugs mentioned in several threads. I think I'm going with the GLS Wave Flex Plugs.
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I went with the Sewell Silverback plugs on Amazon.

I think they are a decent plug and worked just fine in my setup. I like using plugs to clean up the install and just in case I move or swap anything around, it just makes life easier.

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What's wrong with the ones from monoprice? That's the ones that I got and have had no problems.

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I went with the Sewell Silverback plugs on Amazon.
I think they are a decent plug and worked just fine in my setup. I like using plugs to clean up the install and just in case I move or swap anything around, it just makes life easier.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005E1CGZC/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00

+1. I've used different banana plugs over the years and those are my favorite. Good price and nice quality.

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Yeah, I saw the GLS banana plugs mentioned in several threads. I think I'm going with the GLS Wave Flex Plugs.

these are the ones I use as well.

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Been using monoprice plugs and never had an issue with em

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I bought the Sewell Deadbolt from amazon and am very happy. The only thing I don't like is the the plug is longer than the binding post so it only goes in half way or so, but it has been working fine.

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The monoprice plugs are garbage, they are highly inconsistent, I have them and hate them. You have to remove the colored ring in order to get them to clamp down far enough, the banana loosens up, and some of mine are nice and tight in the connection, others are just really loose. Sorry that products a loser even though most of their other stuff is decent.
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I've never had to remove the colored ring or had any problems with the Monoprice plugs. I've even used them on friends A/V receivers with no problems.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0FU0B22386
For home theater guys...Ge.

I bought a pair of these . What do you guys think? Ive been told its great if you dont take them out once they are in they are nice and have a snug tight fit
(Have not tried them yet) but it has dual screws which does grip those wires tight....

I also bought 500ft speaker cable of 14guage southwire
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Southwire-500-ft-14-2-In-wall-Speaker-Cable-56911845/202316387/
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Is there a preference between standard, locking, and wave flex banana plugs?

Here's examples of each from GLS Audio

http://www.speakerrepair.com/page/product/black_chrome/BS8.html
http://www.speakerrepair.com/page/product/locking/BL8.html
http://www.speakerrepair.com/page/product/waveflex-banana/WF8.html

I went with the GLS lockers for several reasons, ranging from price to the fact that my surrounds plug into jacks in the ceiling and gravity is a bitch.

I have no complaints, except that the screwdriver that came in one of my twenty packs does not work once the torque on the screw reaches a certain point... The shaft begins twisting in the handle. Between the fact that I have another one, and plenty of other small screwdrivers to use instead, I don't let that bother me.

These plugs look good and work well, and the locking feature is quite effective. You just need to twist the barrel of the plug while holding the base steady and you get a very secure fit. You can get a secure fit as well with other plug designs, but I always feel like this comes at the price of additional stress on the mounting hardware when using a friction-fit design.

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I have used these
http://www.nakamichiplug.com/product-0534E.html
for years
no issues, looks like the GLS waveflex stuff.

have some of these inserted into binding posts in my ceiling for the past 3 years, i've never had to adjust them and they are as tight as day 1.
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