Originally Posted by p3Orion
DJLittleMike, did you consider contacting Amazon to see if they would let you put the $150 back onto gift cards so that you could sell them? Give them some b.s. that you want to give them to a family member as a gift. Who knows, might work. It's some effort and time, but I know I'd try.
As much as I like Amazon, and do a lot of business with them, I don't like the idea of someone paying more if they don't have to. After all AVS is all about helping each other out.
Here are the numbers in all possible combinations of stores:
Buying the 1913:
AC4L - 379
Amazon - 529 (or 379 with the gift cards)
Buying the Energy's:
Buying the MLT-2's:
Amazon - 379 (or 229 with the gift cards)
NewEgg - 299
The cheapest option is the MLT-2's. So Let's say I buy them at NewEgg. That's 299. For the 1913, let's say I buy it at AC4L, that's 379. Together, that's $628.
The other option is one or both at Amazon. So let's say I go with AC4L for the 1913. That's 379. Then I buy the MLT2's at Amazon. That's 379 - 150 = 229.
379 (AVR) + 229 (MLT2's) = 608. You can argue that it is a worse deal doing it that way because I'll be getting a refurb 1913. For $20 more, I get a brand new 1913 and the same speakers.
Having an extra $150 isn't going to change the price on anything so I'll be spending the same amount of money. The only thing it would do is give me a bigger budget on speakers. So let's take the cheapest combination and add on $150 to the budget:
1913 at AC4L - $379
Cheapest price on the AC4L - $299
Sell the gift cards for $150 - +$150
Speaker budget is now $449
What am I going to get in a 5.1 setup for $449? Either MLT2's or Energy Takes because the only other option is to go separates and as we already figured out, that's going to be over $600 (lowballing it here at $100 a speaker) which puts it over budget. Let's say bookshelf speakers are *minimum* $200/pair. That's 2 fronts 2 surrounds = $400. Then a center, let's go with $150. Now we're up to $550 and I still haven't even bought a sub.
The point is, as much as I appreciate your help, the extra $150 does not allow me to get anything better in a 5.1 setup. If I want to get a kickass set of just fronts and nothing else, sure, $449 will get me that, but that defeats the whole purpose of buying the AVR to begin with, like I said earlier.