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post #1 of 7 Old 01-11-2013, 04:21 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm just now making the transition from entry level surround sound to high fidelity listening. I've done much research but I don't have much experience under my belt.

The dilemma: I just bought a Pioneer Elite VSX-42 (rated at 80 watts per channel - 560 watts in total). I am very pleased with the receiver but now I want to 'add something' to the speaker department.

My current setup:

Center - JBL EC25
R/L - JBL E30's
Surround - JBL N26 ii's
Sub - Sony (Trash)

I'm turning to the AVS community for guidance. Do I replace all speakers or update the weakest links?

For around $700 I can buy JBL ES30's and a JBL ES250P. Using my existing E30's as surround speakers, this would leave me with a respectable home audio system.

OR

Should I cough up the dough and buy:

Center - RC42 II
R/L - RB51 II (The room will not support floorstanding speakers :-/)
Surround - RS42 II
Sub - RW12D

I'm sure I would be thrilled with the Klipsch reference series but the price is something to choke on.

Bottom line: I'm not convinced JBL offers genuinely high quality home audio equipment. Will there be a clear audible difference in Klipsch's reference series?

Any tips or suggestions will be much appreciated. Pictures upon request.

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What kind of budget are you looking at spending?

Several other brands are in the Klipsch price range
http://www.theaudioinsider.com/index.php?loudspeakers=arx&cPath=21_32& Personal favorite
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hc-1.html

For subwoofers the RW12D is decent but something like SVS's PB1000 would easily outperform it especially in distortion numbers (much lower) and extension (much lower again).

http://www.svsound.com/1000-series-landing
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Well, I have about $1,000 to play with.

HSU seems like an awesome value and would definitely fit into my budget! Thanks!

I've read some scary articles about the damage under powering a speak can cause - will the 80 watts per channel the VSX-42 offers be enough to properly drive HB-1 MK2 bookshelf speakers? Will they deliver solid bass performance when listening to 2-channel music?
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Your receiver should be fine. It would take some seriously inefficient speakers to cause trouble. Just stay with something 8ohms and 90+db sensitivity. The HSU's are awesome bookshelfs, I had a pair a little over a year ago and demo'd them a few days and they are very nice sounding, although I ended up keeping the Arx speakers and sending several others back. HSU probably would have been my next choice if they had matching towers, but thats the only bad thing I can say.

The HSU subwoofers are also great and you should be able to get the HSU speakers plus the subwoofer as a matching Hometheater package.
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Why Arx over HSU?

HSU's hybrid package 2 seems very nice.

I do about 70% gaming, 25% movies, and 5% music. The listening area is around 20' x 12'. Do you think the self powered 250 watt sub will be enough?
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I just bought the hsu 5.0 package and the rw12d sub and they really perform well in a room just like yours. Highly recommended, especially for movies and games. I keep tossing emp grenades in call of duty just to get the sub pounding and it shakes the whole house.
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Why Arx over HSU?

HSU's hybrid package 2 seems very nice.

I do about 70% gaming, 25% movies, and 5% music. The listening area is around 20' x 12'. Do you think the self powered 250 watt sub will be enough?

HSU speakers are a fantastic value and are nice speakers. I just liked the Arx speakers alitte more. The planar tweeter seemed more natural and better sounding to me and the woofers in the Arx had much more of a powerful bassier sound to them than the HSU. None of these attributes was drastically better over the other. In my room and with my ears I prefered the Arx.

Another closer on going with the Arx was I wanted a tower speaker for fronts eventually. HSU only offers the bookshelfs and i've read theres no plans to add anything else than whats currently offered, (although I don't currently keep upto date with HSU forums). Arx had one tower available at the time A3 with the A5 being released.
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