well, the pioneers looked cheap when i went to look at them, so no go. I ended up going with the energy cf30's since i already have energy in that room (cc-10 center, and take classics for rear and surround speakers).
the bics went down to 126 each. those were my first choice but i was concerned that some reviewers said there's no mid-range drivers (?), and then i'd have to sell my cc-10 (which i LOVE) and get a bic center. and then there was the whole "what if i don't like them?" thing, shipping those back would have been a PITA.
Cf30's will be here tomorrow, been holding off on watching anything till they get here since my right tower speaker is currently inoperable.
thanks everyone for the input!
Question: no one has heard the BIC DV64? I can't remember the last time i saw such universally positive reviews on such a cheap speaker.
If it matters:
Pioneers-120 plus tax each (new)
CF-30-112 shipped each (floor model)
dv64- 140 shipped each at time of OP (new)