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Ok, I made a thread the other day about how my dad was going to buy the Bose Cinemate II 2.1 system for $600. I told him to wait, and let me find some better options first if I can. He agreed. I made a thread here, and got some good advice. So here is what I came up with:

Denon AVR-1312 receiver. $200

Definitive Technology Promonitor 800 speakers: $290 (pair)

Dayton Sub-1000 10" Subwoofer: $110

Total: $600


OR,


Bose Cinemate II: $600




Is that a good set-up? Anything better? Any other recommendations?
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- Factory re-furb Denon AVR-1612 from accessories4less.com ($200). (The 1612 has Audyssey MultEQ; the 1312 has no room-correction software of any kind.)

- Cambridge S30s from Amazon.com ($220/pr.).

- +1 on the $110 Dayton SUB-1000 (unless you can wait for the $130 SUB-1200 to be back in stock).

Total: $530 (or $550 w/ the SUB-1200).
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Those Cambridge speakers look kind of big... are they? We're a little limited on space.

Our TV sits in one of those recessed wall cut-out areas of the living room.. similar to this:




So the speakers are going to be in front of the TV on each side of the TV.
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Keep hitting up Newegg daily to check the price of the Definitive Technology SM 450 for $280 - $300 a pair. They'll smoke BOTH the DefTech ProMonitor 800 and Cambridge S30. I'd also take a chance on a refurbished Denon AVR-1612 over the 1312. Extended warranty is $30 to $50 more for 3 to 5 years.

Newegg has been playing price ping-pong with the DefTech SM350 and SM450 for MONTHS now. Might be $280 a pair tomorrow. rolleyes.gif

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Those Cambridge speakers look kind of big... are they? We're a little limited on space.

Our TV sits in one of those recessed wall cut-out areas of the living room.. similar to this:




So the speakers are going to be in front of the TV on each side of the TV.

Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like you only have 4" of clearance on each side of the TV. It is going to be TOUGH to get decent speakers that will fit.

Have you thought about adding a shelf on the left side of the TV to support the left speaker and use the cubby on the right for the other speaker?

Another option is to get on-wall speakers and mount them on the supports on each side of the TV. They look thick enough for on-wall speakers.

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Those Cambridge speakers look kind of big... are they?
"Big" is a relative term. IMO, they're pretty small: 8.9" (h) x 6.3" (w) x 9.2" (d).
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So the speakers are going to be in front of the TV on each side of the TV.
They really should go here:



But if that's not feasible, skinny speakers will have to do.
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Since your cabinet is limited - you need small type speakers >
Look at a pair of Acoustic Energy Aego T speakers
Good close out pricing
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ACENAEGOTSAT/ACOUSTIC-ENERGY-AEGO-AE12-10-T-Series-4in-Satellite-Speaker-Black-Each/1.html

Mordaunt Short Carnival 9 subwoofer >
A real good closeout price
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MORDCARN9CAL/MORDAUNT-SHORT-Carnival-9-10-100-Watt-Powered-Subwoofer-Calvados/1.html#!more

And the Denon 1612 receiver

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"Big" is a relative term. IMO, they're pretty small: 8.9" (h) x 6.3" (w) x 9.2" (d).
They really should go here:



But if that's not feasible, skinny speakers will have to do.
Well, that isn't a picture of our living room. It's only similar. Here are some pictures of our actual living room:





I'm not sure where I can put the speakers other than getting a couple of stands...
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Well, that isn't a picture of our living room. It's only similar.
My bad.

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I'm not sure where I can put the speakers other than getting a couple of stands...
I'd go with a good pair of bookshelf speakers on stands - or a good pair of on-wall speakers - flanking the TV. But if that's not feasible, go with the skinny speakers. Sometimes, the limitations just can't be overcome.
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Look at the Center Stage brackets - to go over the TV
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_769CSB1005/Center-Stage-CSB-1005-ADJ.html

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Look at the Center Stage brackets - to go over the TV
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_769CSB1005/Center-Stage-CSB-1005-ADJ.html
That seems like a really good idea. It might look a little funny, but it is functional.
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That seems like a really good idea. It might look a little funny, but it is functional.

With some decent sound, you can get use to it.

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Only problem with those Center Stage brackets is that it is going to put the speakers way too close together. That is going to make for very poor imaging. Too bad there aren't cubbies on the left side. The designer of that A/V space gets an F.

What I would do is get a couple of speaker stands and put one right under the light switch and the other under the painting. Something like the Sanus NF30B, which is a 30" stand. I'm going to assume the light switch is at the standard height of 48", so that means the bottom of the plate is at 44". A 30" stand would give you 14" of clearance for a bookshelf speaker. The next stand height down is 26", but 30" would put the speaker at about the right height from the floor if you choose the average bookshelf speaker with 5.25" or 6.5" driver. Polk Monitor 35B, KEF C3, or DefTech SM350,45,450,55 should all fit nicely on the 30" Sanus stand.

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Here you go $500 with discount code..excellent company to deal with. http://www.wwstereo.com/Cart
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See if you can get the next model up Denon AVR 1713 I believe that has Audyssey...probably around $50-$75 more.

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That seems like a really good idea. It might look a little funny, but it is functional.

You have room to wall-mount some flat panel speakers >> they are nice and will
not stick out to much from the wall - they do sound good, and some color options.
HTD Flat Panel
http://www.htd.com/Products/flat-panel-speakers/flat-panel-speaker

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