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Hi

I recently purchased some Pioneer SP-BS22 speakers for a stereo setup. I really love the sound quality but I don't like the fact that they don't really shine until I reach a high volume (I have a really small bedroom). By volume I don't mean the low sensitivity which some people complain about but the actual volume which hurts my ears. So I returned them for a refund. I would now like some towers as I really don't want a subwoofer for such a small room and I am on a budget.

Both towers can be had for $99 each

1) I know that the SP-FS52's are easier to drive than the BS22's (87db vs 85db). Will the higher sensitivity also mean that they will also "shine" at lower volumes (great for my small room) or just that they take less watts to power?

2) The Primus p363 is also known to be an amazing value just like the Pioneer's and for the same price. How do they compare to the 52's?

3) The Stereophile review states that the Primus is really a 4 ohm speaker even though Harman/Infinity states that they are 8ohm. So will this be too much for my Onkyo TX-NR509 (rated 6-16ohm)? I have yet to see a review stated that it has fried their receiver but I would like to side with caution.

SP-FS52
40hz - 20khz
6 Ohm
87 db sensitivity
1" soft dome tweeter
Three 5-1/4" Structured Surface Woofers


Primus p363
38hz - 20khz
8ohm (review states 4ohm)
93 db sensitivity (review states 91.5db)
3/4" MMD tweeter
4" MMD midrange driver
Two 6.5" MMD woofers

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The infinity's are 8ohms.

You receiver would have enough power in stereo mde for them. The infinities are a lot more sensitive than the Pioneers so it will be a lot easier for your receiver as well.

What is the size of the room where you have the speakers?
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It's great to know that the Infinity's probably won't tax my receiver too much. The room that I want to place some speakers in is 11ft x 11ft. Anyone know how the Pioneer's and Infinity's compare as far as sound quality is concerned? Also, which will have more detailed and quality sound at low volumes?
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Infinities.
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Thanks for your answer but can you please explain why you think the infinities are better? I am really stuck between these two towers.
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Where are you located Porthos01?

If you have a Fry's Electronics nearby you can listen to both speakers in person. They keep them in the same sound room very close to each other.

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I'm in the east coast so there is no way to compare. Best Buy only has the pioneer's and their listening room is atrocious. I decided to go with the infinities. I found a post where someone had the same problem as me. They thought that the Pioneer's had to be driven at higher volumes (not talking about wattage) to really sound good. This is not a problem for most but for people in really small rooms it can be. While I have no idea which one has the superior sound quality, I do know that the Infinities sound better at low volumes which is what I need.

Thanks afrogt and crazyrob425. I'm going with the Infinity's.
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The infinity's have better crossovers, better design as 3-way speakers and alot more efficient than the Pioneers and have better bass response
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The infinity Primus speakers are a good speaker for the money. I compared them with polk m a couple years ago and ended up feeling to two speakers were both good budget speakers. Ended up with polk m40s, but feel like I wish I had gone infinity!

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Originally Posted by Porthos01 View Post

I'm in the east coast so there is no way to compare. Best Buy only has the pioneer's and their listening room is atrocious. I decided to go with the infinities. I found a post where someone had the same problem as me. They thought that the Pioneer's had to be driven at higher volumes (not talking about wattage) to really sound good. This is not a problem for most but for people in really small rooms it can be. While I have no idea which one has the superior sound quality, I do know that the Infinities sound better at low volumes which is what I need. .

Enjoy your Infinity speakers - Audioholics will have a review out soon about the new Pioneer towers
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/loudspeakers/83125-status-acoustics-titus-8t-floorstanding-speaker-system-review-3.html#post931945

Also, Pioneer does not use cheap crossovers, and I have looked inside some of their bookshelf
speakers. I also did not have any real trouble driving the towers with a modest receiver >> and
they do have nice bass. It all comes down to preference/choice and taste - have fun and enjoy.

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What if I have the pioneer bs 22 as rears, still recommend the infinity?

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What if I have the pioneer bs 22 as rears, still recommend the infinity?
If you like the sound of the BS22's then you will like the bigger pioneers for upfront
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