One final opinion from you guys, sorry to be such a bother , demoed the procinema 600, 800, klipsch rf42, and a jbl forgot what model, realized that with kids floor standing speakers might not be a good idea, so I'm considering the 800. It sounded great, filled the store at half the volume, even had people coming to check it out and see what type of system it was. Klipsch sounded great also, a lot louder and more depth with the floor standing speakers.
He gave me the procinema 800 with 2 additional promonitor 800's, procenter 800 to complete 7.1 and prosub 800,with a denon avr 1912, and all cables need for $1200, or I can go with the rf42 system a Klipsh sw110 sub, and avr1912 for $1500, still haven't demoed the bic Pl76 system though,but kind of swaying away from the floor standing do to the size and again kids.
Again sorry in advance for being a pain , and thanks for all your help