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i'm new to the world of HT, and just purchased my first projector, Epson 8350. I am in the market for a good surround sound system, possibly going 7.1. Got a price of around a $1000 for this setup, Definitive technology 60.6 surround sound, and 2 definitive techs bp6b, with a Yamaha RX-V571BL 7.1-Channel AV Receiver, with 2 monster m1000hd 50ft hdmi cables. the HT is in my basement, which is about 23'W x 50'L, the projector is viewable from anywhere in the basement, so i want to be able to get the sound throughout the basement., wondering if this should do the trick. also wondering if the $1000 i am paying for the surround sound system i s a good deal?

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Putting that system into that huge room is like putting a lawn mower motor into a dump truck! You are talking 3.5 inch drivers in a 1,000+ sq ft room. You will likely want to look at towers with 6 inch (or larger) drivers...
Also, a couple 15 inch subs might be required!

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Putting that system into that huge room is like putting a lawn mower motor into a dump truck! You are talking 3.5 inch drivers in a 1,000+ sq ft room. You will likely want to look at towers with 6 inch (or larger) drivers...
Also, a couple 15 inch subs might be required!

true, i had a panasonic HTIB and i filled the room pretty well, loud and clear, but wanted to go bigger, so this is what was suggested at the store. i don't want to wake the neighbors , just have a clear, nice sounding theater experience.
any suggestions you might have as to what kind of speakers or brands you might recommend ?

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Putting that system into that huge room is like putting a lawn mower motor into a dump truck! You are talking 3.5 inch drivers in a 1,000+ sq ft room. You will likely want to look at towers with 6 inch (or larger) drivers...
Also, a couple 15 inch subs might be required!

sorry forgot to mention, budget is around $1000, give or take a couple hundred
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There are entire houses that aren't 1000 sq ft!
I would recommend put all 1000 dollars into a 2.1. A couple decent towers and the best sub possible. The klipsch 12d often goes for 300 dollars and that is too small...so maybe get 2 and then 2 infinity primus p363s!
Or...2 pairs if def tech sm350s (around 200/pr) and the best sub you can afford!
But...only you can determine what is best for you! Btw, the def tech 60.6 would be a nice bedroom set up!

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If you haven't bought those monster HDMI cables yet look at mono price for any and all cables...you'll save a lot...smile.gif

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If you haven't bought those monster HDMI cables yet look at mono price for any and all cables...you'll save a lot...smile.gif
i actually ended up getting the monster cable for $75 brand new from Pauls tv, best deal i've seen around, even though that is still high for hdmi cables, checked monoprice, and their high end cables are only about $10-$15 cheaper, compared to what im paying, and i'm hoping that the monster work better with the long length that i need
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What kind of htib did you have? Stick with me for a minute.

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What kind of htib did you have? Stick with me for a minute.

i had the panasonic sc-btt195 1000w 5.1, at about 3/4 volume my said she can hear it upstairs clearly when playing call of duty biggrin.gif
it's a good system but lacks the hdmi inputs that i needed to have a complete HT experience without running multiple cables to my projector, but it was a foray into the unkown for me, so i've been learning from the forums, and talking to reps and various electronics stores, i'll stick right here with you smile.gif thanks
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Thats not a bad price for what you are getting. Its a good receiver. Are they willing to break it up or you have to take it as a package?

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Thats not a bad price for what you are getting. Its a good receiver. Are they willing to break it up or you have to take it as a package?

it's actually all individual , so i can pick and choose what kind of speakers i want, they're giving me the the receiver open box for $199, which i can't pass up, but i can add or change any speakers i want
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That is awesome! That was my biggest concern. Be right back.

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That is awesome! That was my biggest concern. Be right back.

your the man, i really appreciate the help, thank you
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Whats the name of the store? And you are being ripped off badly on those cables.

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Have you thought about making the room smaller? Filling 50' x 23' is a tall order for anything under $4000. I'm running a 2600 watt 11.0 plus 3600 watt .2 in a 15' x 16' room.

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Whats the name of the store? And you are being ripped off badly on those cables.

im going through pauls tv, the cables are monster m1000hd 50ft length, what is a good price for something like that?
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Have you thought about making the room smaller? Filling 50' x 23' is a tall order for anything under $4000. I'm running a 2600 watt 11.0 plus 3600 watt .2 in a 15' x 16' room.

Mostly DefTech w/ Denon AVR & Emotiva amp.

BP7000SC, CLR3000, JBL L7, UIW BPZ/A, SM55, EoSone RSR 350. Denon AVR 5308ci, Emotiva XPR-5.

man the floor probably shakes in that room, my neighbors would call the cops on me biggrin.gif, but it would be fun
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This is roughly $1050 with receiver but will be a lot better than the store offer and will kill what you have. Dont let the price of those Pioneers fool you.

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man the floor probably shakes in that room, my neighbors would call the cops on me biggrin.gif, but it would be fun
Yi. Im not trying to get you quaking. I am trying to find you qualty sound.

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man the floor probably shakes in that room, my neighbors would call the cops on me biggrin.gif, but it would be fun

Nope. On a concrete slab. LOL It shakes with or without the transducers in the seating turned on.

Newegg had the DefTech SM450 and SM 350 and BP8B on sale but I think it ends today.

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Have you thought about making the room smaller? Filling 50' x 23' is a tall order for anything under $4000. I'm running a 2600 watt 11.0 plus 3600 watt .2 in a 15' x 16' room.

Mostly DefTech w/ Denon AVR & Emotiva amp.

BP7000SC, CLR3000, JBL L7, UIW BPZ/A, SM55, EoSone RSR 350. Denon AVR 5308ci, Emotiva XPR-5.

actually thinking about it i miss judged the size, sorry about that, just looked at my floorplan, it's actually 19'W x 45'L
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im going through pauls tv, the cables are monster m1000hd 50ft length, what is a good price for something like that?
I encourage you to do your research.Dont take my word for it. Monster is hugely overpriced and a big ripoff. Excuse my typing I am on a tablet and trying to hurry. So. You need a 50 ft hdmi cable? Waht else?

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Nope. On a concrete slab. LOL It shakes with or without the transducers in the seating turned on.

Newegg had the DefTech SM450 and SM 350 and BP8B on sale but I think it ends today.

checked the bp8b's the newegg promo is good until the 31st, the guy told me they are actually a older model, unless he's pulling my leg, and trying to dump off the bp6's on me
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actually thinking about it i miss judged the size, sorry about that, just looked at my floorplan, it's actually 19'W x 45'L
That is a very large sapce and why you will need 2 subs.

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checked the bp8b's the newegg promo is good until the 31st, the guy told me they are actually a older model, unless he's pulling my leg, and trying to dump off the bp6's on me
No. They are prehistoric.

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I encourage you to do your research.Dont take my word for it. Monster is hugely overpriced and a big ripoff. Excuse my typing I am on a tablet and trying to hurry. So. You need a 50 ft hdmi cable? Waht else?

i have everything else, i purchased 16 gauge wire from amazon, already have the wall plates for my hdmi's, and speaker connections, basically the only thing i need is good speakers to have that theater experience, the receiver that he's giving me seems pretty good for $199 price
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