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I was considering adding them, but there must be some loss involved? It would seem bare wires are the best route to avoid any loss or signal degredation?
Also, what about soldering bare wire ends prior to adding to the amp or speakers. Is that a good idea or not?
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I was considering adding them, but there must be some loss involved?
I've had speakers connected with and without banana plugs. If there's a loss, it's negligible and IMO it's far outweighed by the convenience of having plugs.
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I was considering adding them, but there must be some loss involved?
You might be able to measure it with laboratory grade gear. There's far too little to hear. I don't use connectors myself not because of sound concerns but because they're an unnecessary complication.
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Not. Friction connections rely on the wire basically getting crushed and deformed to give the best grip. Tinning the wire makes it too hard to easily do so.

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i like them just because they're convenient.
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I don't agree that banana plugs are an unnecessary complication because once you have them on the wire (takes a few minutes for all of them), you are done. It is more of a hassle to unscrew the cap on the speaker or device, and than rescrew it once you are done with changes. In the end it takes minimal time either way, but I feel the banana plug is easier when you have tight spaces to work in.

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I find it painful trying to get bare wire in the binding posts. Agree the plugs are convenient.
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I find it painful trying to get bare wire in the binding posts. Agree the plugs are convenient.

Especially the bottom post on receivers.
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I don't disagree on the convenience aspect, but I'm a miserly Yankee who doesn't spend $ on something that I can get along without, especially when I haven't touched a speaker wire connection in at least five years.

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Especially the bottom post on receivers.

Also helpful if the receiver weighs 70 pounds and the amp weighs 100 pounds and are tucked into a Mitsubishi TV stand. wink.gif

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I don't disagree on the convenience aspect, but I'm a miserly Yankee who doesn't spend $ on something that I can get along without, especially when I haven't touched a speaker wire connection in at least five years.

Sure, I understand most of us don't change equipment often. But, once we do it saves us that extra minute from twisting and turning lol. I do like your use of miserly Yankee however! I just enjoy the convenience and cost is very cheap now a days.

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I was bored so I made my own nice looking cables with banana plugs. Here are some pictures:




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How exciting...another banana plug question. Just had one last month. Go here:

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Thanks guys, after reading everything, I see they are useful in situations that call for tight instals and no room to attatch bare wires in binding posts.
I have room to move in my setup, and used one of my craftsman sockets to tighten them, not over-tight. I think I'll just stick with what works now.
One thing I did do, was use de-oxit in my ports, cable ends and speaker connects. It really did clean them up quite a bit. Great stuff.
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