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So, I currently have the speakers from an Onkyo HT-S6300 and I have managed to push them too hard and now I've got a few rattling. My budget for this project is $ZERO, so keep that in mind.

I'm going to bite the bullet and get something. After reading through these forums for 4+ hours, I am no closer to a decision than I was when I started. Just like everyone else, I want something great, but I don't want to pay anything for it.

My AVR is an Onkyo HT-RC360, and I'm prewired for 7.1

I'm leaning toward the Dayton HTP-3 and then add a set of Dayton Audio B652 for my mains and use the 4 satellites for my surrounds.

I really wanted to go with Polk, Energy, or something reputable like it, but reviews and $$ tell me this is a solid setup for under $250. Before I pull the trigger, I'd like some input on what the cheapest setup you may suggest that won't make me want to stab myself in the ears would be.
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Obviously, I'd love to spend $1200 on speakers, but that's just not happening right now. My main goal is to fix what I broke without downgrading. After tearing apart one of the Onkyo satellites, I realize that it's not going to be hard to upgrade from them. I'm shocked at how cheap they were made.
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This gets recommended often on this forum:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882981013

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For 170 dollars, you can get a pair of def tech sm350s from new egg...that would be a great start!

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I don't think going from one cheap micro satellite system to another one will be any kind of "upgrade." Have you considered starting with a decent set of bookshelf or tower speakers and slowly building your system from there as funds allow? At the end of that process, you'll be much happier with the result.

I don't have any personal experience with these speakers, but the Andrew Jones Pioneer and the Infinity Primus speakers seem to be generally well regarded (and are very affordable).
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This gets recommended often on this forum:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882981013

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That's a great choice for a smaller satellite system. Newegg currently has a promo code for $25 off (EMCXWVS94).

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The Martin longan MLT-2 would be a step up and would give you slightly bigger drivers up front and a better sub!

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How much better would the martin's be than the daytons? No one has commented much on the daytons.
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I really need to get something with 7.1 too. I don't want wires hanging out of empty spots waiting for more $. Thanks for all the replies. There is a great community here
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How much better would the martin's be than the daytons? No one has commented much on the daytons.

That's because more people here with experience with the MLT-2s. The speakers in the set are actually rebranded Paradigm Cinema 70 speakers (same parent company). Look up some reviews on both. Different class of speakers from the Daytons.

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I guess the appeal of the Dayton is the fact that I can add the 6.5 bookshelf and get to 7.1 and only spend $240.

I really like the MLT-2. I'm a little weird about things matching, so I'd have a hard time mixing different brand speakers around the room. I did find someone on ebay selling the MLT satellites in pairs for $110. So, my total on that would be right around $400.

I was hoping more people here had experience with the HTP-3 set.

Another one that I was looking at was the Polk RM6750 , but on paper the HTP-3 looks like the better choice. Paired up with a set of Monitor 35b for $119, this 7.1 would be about $290.

One more that was mentioned earlier was the Def Tech 350 That would make a nice set of mains for the ProCinema 60 Totaling $380
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One more that was mentioned earlier was the Def Tech 350 That would make a nice set of mains for the ProCinema 60 Totaling $380

That might be a winner. Everything matching, and a path for matching upgrades over time.

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That might be a winner. Everything matching, and a path for matching upgrades over time.

Except the SM350 and the ProCinema 60 may not match. They may be the same brand, but that doesn't mean the Studio Monitors are a timbre match with the ProCinema centers.

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Of the speaker listed in this thread, mostly satellite speakers, the def tech sm350s are the closest thing to a full range speaker (at least, compared to the other systems). However, finding the matching center can be a challenge (clr2002). Been out of production for awhile...
There is a very good reason to match your front stage for a nice timbre match as sounds travel across the front stage. However, I would have no reservation using no matching speakers as surrounds...in fact, I am!

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Of the speaker listed in this thread, mostly satellite speakers, the def tech sm350s are the closest thing to a full range speaker (at least, compared to the other systems). However, finding the matching center can be a challenge (clr2002). Been out of production for awhile...
There is a very good reason to match your front stage for a nice timbre match as sounds travel across the front stage. However, I would have no reservation using no matching speakers as surrounds...in fact, I am!

Of course if two of the many people talking about the 350/450s on the thread right now would get together, one of them could be an extra set, keep one, and sell the other wink.gif

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I've also just read some reviews of the procenima that aren't great. Many people unhappy with the sub. Keep in mind that I was happy with the crappy Onkyo's until I pushed them too hard and wrecked them out. The Audyssey eq settings on the AVR covered up a lot of shortcomings. My room isn't that big, and some satellites that aren't just junk will probably make me happy. I know once I hear better stuff, I'll never go back, in the mean time, I've got to keep cost a main priority.
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The dayton bookshelves are a great idea for your surrounds. I recommended them for a buddy with a strict budget and he was pleased. Though it will be much harder to stay at a 250 dollar budget when youve already spent 100 on the rears. That leaves 150 for the fronts. I honesty cant recommend anything at that price, but look on amazon for Jamo, i believe they are manufactured or owned by klipsch.
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