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Hi All,

I have set the crossover on my Sony STR-DN1030 to "100 Hz" with Energy Take classic 5.1 system.
I have a questions based on the frequency response of speaker specs.
Sat: 115Hz-20KHz;
Center: 110Hz-20KHz;
Subwoofer: 33Hz-150Hz

As I have set the crossover to "100 Hz" and Center freqency is 110 Hz to 20KHz , am I going to miss some frequency because the lowest of Center is 110 Hz but I set my crossover to 100 Hz ?.

Please explain.

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While you probably won't entirely miss any frequencies from the center, you will quite possibly be down by some amount in that 100 to 110 range. How much it's hard to say, without measuring. For the satellites it will be slightly worse.

I am not familiar with your receiver, and don't know if it supports any kind of automatic EQ. If not, I suggest playing with the crossover setting. and repeatedly listening to the same sounds after each adjustment. If you can measure this, even better, otherwise go with what sounds best to you.

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The fundamental problem is that the front speakers of that system are simply too small to function as the front speakers.

They have main drivers (which they laughingly call "woofers") that are smaller than the speaker of a cheap clock radio.

Front speakers should go down to AT LEAST 80 Hz, preferably 60 Hz, so that the subwoofer only has to function at the the lower frequencies.

I suggest that you buy a pair of Sony SS-B1000 speakers, which have 5 1/2 inch drivers, and use them as your front pair of speakers.

Then you can set the crossover for 80 Hz for the fronts and sub, and the system will sound 100% better.

You can get those for only $60 per pair.

Or you could get a pair of Polk Monitor 30 speakers, which run $100 per pair or so.

Operating the Center at 110 Hz and up is correct; it should NOT operate at lower frequencies

Your front speakers must be able to operate down to 80 hz, and the ones you have are way to small to do it! You need larger ones. That is the only way to fix your problem IMO.
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The fundamental problem is that the front speakers of that system are simply too small to function as the front speakers.

They have main drivers (which they laughingly call "woofers") that are smaller than the speaker of a cheap clock radio.

Front speakers should go down to AT LEAST 80 Hz, preferably 60 Hz, so that the subwoofer only has to function at the the lower frequencies.

I suggest that you buy a pair of Sony SS-B1000 speakers, which have 5 1/2 inch drivers, and use them as your front pair of speakers.

Then you can set the crossover for 80 Hz for the fronts and sub, and the system will sound 100% better.

You can get those for only $60 per pair.

Or you could get a pair of Polk Monitor 30 speakers, which run $100 per pair or so.

Operating the Center at 110 Hz and up is correct; it should NOT operate at lower frequencies

Your front speakers must be able to operate down to 80 hz, and the ones you have are way to small to do it! You need larger ones. That is the only way to fix your problem IMO.
The OP came here to ask a question about what crossover to set, so why are you telling him to go buy some crap that he doesn't need? He never asked what speakers does commsysman think I need....

Set all of your crossovers to 120hz if your receiver will allow it for the takes. Your sub will handle everything below that.

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I'd either:
- set all the speakers to 120Hz; or
- set the sats to 130Hz and the CC speaker to 120Hz.
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The OP came here to ask a question about what crossover to set, so why are you telling him to go buy some crap that he doesn't need? He never asked what speakers does commsysman think I need....

Set all of your crossovers to 120hz if your receiver will allow it for the takes. Your sub will handle everything below that.
x2 Abd BTWs that's what that guy always does.

to the OP set it at 120hz for all speakers and forget about. I use to have a similar small speaker set-up Polk RM6750 with similar speaker rated performance and it recommended setting to 120hz. Though I did move it to 100hz as the system sounded better to my ears then
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Hi All,

Thanks for your valuable feedback. Now I have set my crossover to 120 Hz and I will test how this sound for next couple of days.

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Hello everybody : )

I am getting the Energy Take Classic 5 pack and the center channel is rated 110hz at the lowest and the rest are rated at 115hz at the lowest. I have a Klipsch sub that is rated 36-200hz......so my problem is that my receiver only goes from 100hz crossover to 150hz crossover. 150hz seems like too much......would it be bad for the speakers to set the crossover at 100hz and would I lose alot or should I have it set at 150? All speakers have 3inch woofers. Thank You
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try it at 100hz and 150hz then leave it at whatever setting sounds best to you. I have a hunch it'll be 100hz.

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Will it ruin the speakers if I set it to 100hz?
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You won't hurt the speakers. Like Afrogt said, just use whichever one sounds better to you.
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I got the same question i have the energy take classic 5.1 and a denon e300 reciver whit audessy set up but i dont khow if this set up is right for me i have a small livingroom this is the audessey set up center speaker 80Hz,front speaker 80Hz and sat 60Hz subwoofer 120Hz is ok or not please help
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Yes. Best to try this.
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Originally Posted by eljaycanuck View Post

I'd either:
- set all the speakers to 120Hz; or
- set the sats to 130Hz and the CC speaker to 120Hz.

Leave the LFE setting for the subwoofer on 120hz.

Of course, if you like it better the way that Audyssey set it, then go for it. That's all that matters smile.gif

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